Hooray Halloween!!! I Don't Celebrate It Myself But I Just Had To Draw It Because I'm Sure They Still

completing this wlw bobutter saga

mr peanutbutter and bojack from alpha!au in general

can you imagine that he's 45

okay, about old married couple bobutters and hollyhock…

i just consider this topic terribly interesting because i like hollyhock and i like their dynamics (going back to that post from my dead account, rest in peace)

i have two scenarios in my head. the first is that hollyhock is raised by his 8 fathers and, as in the original, finds bojack and tells him that she may be his daughter. AND THE TEST CONFIRMS THE KINSHIP. AND SHE WAS BORN IN 1999, WHEN BOBUTTERS WERE ALREADY TOGETHER. do you understand? that would be a real drama... kind of a test of their relationship. before they came to the conclusion that hollyhock was his sister, not his daughter, bojack would vehemently deny the fact of cheating (maybe he'd even start doubting himself due to his insecurities and all) but what pb's reaction would look like… given his fear of loneliness and tendency to forgive... it's interesting to speculate about. i have a lot of thoughts but i want to hear yours first

and the second scenario is just fun. what if they adopted hollyhock. i honestly didn't think through exactly how this would happen because beatrice would hardly be eager to give the child to them. maybe henrietta would contact them directly, knowing that these two were good guys? idk. but watching and exploring their cute family dynamics seems interesting to me :3

anyway what do YOU think? take your time with the answer, i know that it's about 5:00 am for you

woah holy shit ok… the DRAMA of that first idea… woah.. Because we don’t often see any sort of drama between the two and this would be really interesting to explore… Bojack KNOWING he didn’t cheat, and PB hoping his partner would NEVER do that to him.

That scene where Bojack rushes to hollyhocks house with the information about his dad and Henrietta, but he rushes to PB on his KNEES begging for forgiveness after that conflict, and honestly they’re both better off because of it

As for them adopting hollyhock… that’s just adorable, and the way you brought it up happening feels probably the most likely, to me at least.. especially if (and i’m embarrassed saying this) but if Jay exists then i could see the two being like sisters which is a lovely idea

oooo oooo o owow ohoh happy birthday freak @fandomfreakstudios!!!

im not very eloquent and i also don't know how to congratulate people properly, but i hope you have a great day! you are a wonderful person and i love you and you deserve all the best! everything is gonna be fine! (imagine you wake up in the morning and see your son bringing you a birthday cake that he made himself)

raguma would you draw mr peanutbutter over this its importance

yes thank you lyril. with full understanding of the importance of this picture, i tried to convey its mood as accurately as possible

bobutters rarely go to public events together, but when they do (the wedding of mutual friends for example), they ALWAYS wear matching suits. how stupid these costumes are depends on who chose them this time, mr peanutbutter or bojack. like it could just be modest costumes of the same cut and similar colors, or it's an absolutely clownish outfits like this:

or this:

they make others feel awkward

I have some questions friend:

Which AUs do you think would be interesting for a Bobutter fanfic?

Do you think they could have been friends (like, real friends) in childhood? Supposing that for some reason PB's family moved from the Labrador Peninsula and went to live where the Horsemans live and BJ studies. I think PB would be interested in meeting BJ, and since BJ was most likely the recluse of the room, PB's attention would be welcome, but I still think he would envy PB for being happy so easily. And PB would have a totally different view of the world, since everything is perfect in his homeland.

What do you think the dynamic between them would be like if they were women? When you're a woman, you have a lot of social pressures, so I don't think BJ would have a sex life like he does in the series. This I say, as openly as a man like him takes it. I think she would feel much more rivalry with PB, and her relationship with Sarah (if she were a boy) would also be totally strange, or maybe it wouldn't happen at all? She would have much lower self-esteem for her body. As for PB, she would have much more gossip about her 3 ex-husbands. I mean, a woman her age with 3 failed marriages, what's her problem? And a woman that age with such young men? And I think she would have more pressure to have children. Which would lead to it not happening. Because.... BOOOM, PB is infertile (not sterile. Infertile. She has little chance of getting pregnant, but she could still do it.) So this could cause a lot of problems for the happy vision of the world that she would have. And she would clearly be a little obsessed with staying young, because no one could love an old woman(in her mind). So, would they be sadder?

hey!

first of all i want to say that EVERY au would be interesting for a bobutter fic 'cause we need more fics my glorious warriors.

secondly, kids au: oooh it would be fun!! them as kids interacting together... well i fantasize like this: if mr peanutbutter moves to san francisco with his family and, let's say, gets into the same class with bojack, he either immediately wins the attention of his classmates and becomes everyone's favorite, or first he needs some time to get used to new people and his new life, and bojack becomes his friend. in the first case, he has quite little contact with bojack, but when this happens it is always extremely friendly and easy. bojack also tries to be kind and pleasant to him because he is afraid to meet public condemnation, but in his soul over the years he begins to envy him and hate him more and more (for the same reasons as in the original). so there's not much chemistry between them, but it sounds more plausible. in the second case, pb due to the sudden change of environment shuts down for a while, but still tries to find friends among classmates, and since boj is not particularly sociable and most likely did not have many himself pb and he get closer. they spend a lot of time together, play and walk, watch cartoons, and really enjoy each other's company. that would be adorable!! mr peanutbutter would be practically the only ray of light in bojack's life, and he'd actually treasured him. but, in the end, pb gains popularity, earns a lot of friends, and... further at the discretion of the author. imo they would drift apart and bojack would hate him in the same way, but there would also be a more personal drama here hehe

tbh the idea of drawing how they play and have fun with each other as children sounds... very tempting

thirdly, genderswap au: surely if they are women they will be sadder..... 😔 but joking aside, i like your thoughts! i've never considered that idea so i don't have much to say. the only thing is, i think it would change a lot. because of the influence of social stereotypes and expectations they would grow up very different from their original versions, and most likely, as you mentioned, they'd have other problems and development paths. i'd be interested to read about it in the fanfiction, yes!

thank you for your thoughts my pal!