So, How Exactly Did God Odysseus (Poseidon's Kid) Come To Be?

shipping telemachus with any of the generals from the trojan war is hilarious because it immediately becomes the scene from 22 jump street with the captain's daughter. you cannot tell me that if somehow achilles banged telemachus that diomedes wouldn't be absolutely dying with laughter running around like "SAY HELLO TO THE STRONGEST OF THE GREEKS BECAUSE ACHILLES IS FUCKED."

it would be even worse if the roles were reversed because you just know that Odysseus would have given diomedes advice. The others would raise themselves from the dead to give diomedes shit.

My old sketch from Ocean Deity!AU

What Ocean Deities AU is? Well!! Here are links to posts explaining what this is:

Explanation of the concept, Odysseus, Penelope & Telemachus, Attempts at the plot, Development arc

What if Poseidon wants to make Ody's experience in the human world miserable because he's in love with Ody and he wants to marry him.

I have a little mermaid au in my head

Odysseus can figure out what most human stuff does or is for. He is smart. But some stuff he is like WTF IS THIS?!

He 100% bribes Eurylochus into letting him look around ship wrecks with the idea that he might finding something pretty to give Ctimene

Polites enables Ody's obsession with the human world

After rescuing Penelope. Odysseus now wants even more to go on land to learn about humans and he thinks she is the prettiest girl he has ever seen.

Sthenelus deserves a better paycheck hahaha 🤣

I don't like te element about his wife for many reasons (main one being incest) because of it I usually don't include her in my stories or au's.

I'm not sure tbh...I'm aware he in some stores becomes one but I never hear what exactly he becomes.

I like the idea of him being a god of something war/battle related since it would fit him well and add interesting contrast between him and Odysseus and Penelope.

Maybe...🤔

Maybe he would be a god of vengeance, wrath, or conquest.

I'm not sure yet. I might come up with something later. We will see 🙈

Do you think Titan Odysseus looks any different from God Odysseus? Are there personalities any different?

How exactly do Diomedes, Penelope, and Odysseus go about discipline/raising Telemachus ?

Any fun facts about them as deities (Telemachus and Penelope)?

What are the reactions of those from the kingdom of Argos (if he somehow managed to convince them of dating a Titan and a goddess)?

Okay so I have a headcanon about titans that they are much more of an embodiment of the domain they represent. It basically goes

Chaos > ancient gods (Gaya, Nyx, Tartarus) > Titans > Gods embodying elements (Limos) > "Olympian gods" > minor gods > nymphs/spirits > demigods

The further it goes the more human they are. For example Limos as goddess of hunger embodied her element to the point where even Demeter couldn't get close to her, or how Helios is sometimes described as the sun itself which never happened to Apollo.

Odysseus as a titan of peace would cause his surroundings to become calm. He sometimes visits cities that were victims of a panic to calm them down. He also helps by visiting places that are meant to be sanctuaries like temples. If he would stay too long he could risk people acting like lotus eaters and not being willing to work so he makes sure to not stay in one place for more than a month.

Titan Ody looks more like a harpy than a human (he has harpy legs and his body is mostly covered in feathers with exception being his chest, neck, arms and face) he has a pair of wings on his back and on his head.

God Odysseus looks mostly like a man in his twenties with wings on his lower back and head.

Raising Telemachus is different depending if it's god Odysseus or titan one. If he's a god, he, Penelope and Dio would stay in Argos at first and make sure if Telemachus is a god or not (since gods do not always give birth to other gods). Telemachus would be raised among people of Argos until he develops his domain.

If Odysseus is a titan they would raise Telemachus in the fields that are seen as Ody's main domain. Diomedes would make sure to take Telemachus regularly to some cities to make sure that he would know more about people. (Since God Ody is easily startled by people and titan one can't stay with them too long without affecting them)

In both Odysseus would share stories with his baby and show him many places while Penelope would introduce Telemachus to many books, arts and crafts.

Ody is more relaxed about raising Telemachus. He is a little bit overprotective but at the same time he wants his baby to enjoy what the world has to offer. Penelope is a kind but stern parent. She is the one who established things like bedtime or will give him timeout for misbehaving. Diomedes is at first confused as hell because he knows nothing about raising kids but he gets better with time. He also was only recently granted godhood or he is about to so he is still figuring out all the god stuff while trying to raise a baby that can easily lift him.

With the people of Argos it's a funny story.

At first they obviously didn't believe him when he said he's a lover of a titan. But once Sthenelus realised that Dio isn't lying he's PANICKING! Everyone knows that Odysseus has been married for over a century. They are scared that his wife will punish Dio and the entire Argos for this situation. They want to build a temple for Penelope to beg her for forgiveness only to turn out that Penelope doesn't mind sharing her husband (especially since the first thing Ody did was to ask for his wife's permission to have a date with a pretty human.) Dio decides to stay human until he finds someone to replace him on the throne and Sthenelus is always sweating bullets when he feels the presence of the titan and the goddess.

I thought of Dio who would show up later (after Ody and Menelaus would be married for at least a few years)

It could be extra funny if it happened after Diomedes was crowned.

Imagine Menelaus arriving in Argos with his wife only to see this young alpha being instantly smitten with his omega.

Odysseus would be oblivious to Dio's advances meanwhile Menelaus would wrap himself around Ody and grow any time Dio is (for his liking) too close to the queen of Ithaca.

Also I would not be shocked if Menelaus was a type of person who respected Ody as a strategist and a wise queen (mostly thanks to Athena) but at the same time he would panic seeing her having a problem with reaching for something from a high shelf or at the chance of her possibly being left alone with an alpha that isn't her family hahaha

What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?

Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)

There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool

1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)

2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)

3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.

4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.

Let's hope he at least pays child support now hahaha

Does Hermes change after the entire Ody situation or does he still sleep regularly with mortals?

He stops for like a few years but then 100% starts up again

Ody as a titan would be a titan of peace (as calmness) and if he was a god he would most likely be a god of safety (as son of Poseidon he would probably be more connected to sailing)

Diomedes and Menelaus spent the Trojan War fighting over their mutual custody Work Wife Odysseus

Hi...I'm that person who wrote you the long comment about Ody dying instead of Achilles...

I love this idea of yours!!!

Oh god the tragedy!!! Priam probably saw his son as someone good who did everything that was needed for his people and now when he wants to retrieve his son's body he is forced to face the "monster" who killed his son only to discover it's a grieving child.

And referencing in your story how Agamemnon seemed to question Ody being Achilles' father...What if Achilles during the war tried to avoid being called all the baby names by his dad because he wanted to be taken seriously by all the older kings and generals?

Achilles would on purpose keep his tent further from his father's, go to other camps and where he would spend time with Patroclus, go hunting with literally anyone but his dad and suddenly....his dad is gone.

He guards his father's body preventing it from being buried (Athena would keep Ody's body intact like gods did with Hector's). He does this because he can't accept his dad being gone. He placed Ody's body in the tent of the Ithacan king as if he was sleeping and still had a chance to wake up.

And then Priam shows up. The Trojan king wanted to believe that Achilles was a monster but he sees a scared child who wishes to be hugged by his dad.

They make an agreement in the end.

And finally when people are able to convince Achilles to let Odysseus go, to have a proper burial so he can find happiness in Elysium he goes to his father's tent and starts looking through his thighs and he breaks down.

There were carved wooden toys. Almost the same ones he had in his childhood. Odysseus was probably making them in free time for Telemachus hoping to give them to him some day. Achilles chuckled with teary eyes remembering when as a kid he begged his parents that if he's going to have little siblings, nobody is going to take his toys.

He looked further and in between wooden toys were carved combs, tools and figures of warriors...Odysseus was making gifts for BOTH of his sons. Achilles had to stop himself from crying.

To distract himself he looked at papers and maps on the desk. There he witnessed plans to invade Troy. An idea of a trap with hidden soldiers inside, then he gazed at the wooden toys...he had a plan how to end this war.

When Helen was with them, Achilles refused to see her. He knew he wouldn't blame her for his father's death, and seeing (/hearing) the way she cried hearing about Odysseus' passing, he knew she already blamed herself more than enough.

But what hurt Achilles the most was realising how YOUNG his father was. He was a teen dad. They had around ten year gap in age. Achilles was in his twenties, people around him would call him a kid and yet now he's a similar age his father went to war. This man had an entire future before him and it was taken in one fight.

Now he truly understands why his father always hated war.

Because in war there are no winners...just survivors.

What if Odysseus died instead of Achilles. Wouldn't that be fucked up

Like Patroclus dies, and then he kills Hector, and then his dad dies. He now has three corpses in his tent. And Priam comes to beg for Hector's corpse and tells him to think of his father. But his father is right there. He's dead. Your son killed my father.

I'm really fascinated by the idea of Agamemnon pushing Odysseus and Menelaus to marry.

Menelaus would probably be a good and respectful husband to Ody so that's nice 🙂👍

Also a little funny to imagine but Agamemnon would for sure be at least a little pissed seeing Odysseus being all nice and calm around Menelaus meanwhile he got almost mauled by her.

I also wonder how Menelaus would react seeing Diomedes clearly pining for Ody. I can imagine him becoming slightly possessive and protective of his omega but it's also possible he would allow Dio to court her but at least at the beginning Menelaus would be there to make sure that Dio would not try anything malicious on her.

What would happen if Agamemnon found out that Odysseus is female Omega during the courting of Helen?

Would he want to blackmail her/court her/ or maybe demand that she marries Menelaus since he wants to ensure a throne for his brother (not being sure if Helen would pick any of them)

There are a few different scenarios that could happen. But he wouldn't attack her. That just wouldn't happen. Because a. Thats a bad look for him to attack an omega (especially an omega woman) who's the guest of his host and b. He had braincells prior to the war so he wasn't a complete fool

1. He gets her to reveal herself to everyone else and now she is getting hounded by everyone else along with Helen. (He would make a fool of her in front of everyone when he outs her too)

2. He attempts to blackmail her into getting Helen to pick him and would demand she marry his brother so he has a throne. And this Would also include getting her to reveal herself and humiliating her. The hardest part is convincing his brother to go along with it because Menelaus isn't the type to marry someone doing it out of distress. (But he would also be the safest option for Ody to marry)

3. He courts her himself. Because hey Ithaca would be a nice edition to his kingdom and forces her to marry him. This is the worst case scenario but also least likely to happen. He has seen Odysseus fight. And I don't think he would want to go through the pain of trying to "tame" her.

4. He doesn't tell anyone and blackmails her without a demand she marry his brother but would blackmail her into marrying one of the other suitors to put her back in her place. And most likely that suitor is the one who reveals she's a woman.