Please Actually Listen To Trans Men/mascs When We Talk About Our Oppression

I love my trans bf so seeing a blog populated by the most based takes ever that involve trans men makes me happy :3

Keep spitting facts my dear warrior

Aw, thanks! I love my trans wife and my trans friends. I want this community to feel welcoming for all of them.

i just remembered that back in elementary and high school, i was friends with a lot of guys and most of them were boy scouts. we were such a tight knit group that it sucked that i was getting left out of things that they wanted me to be a part of. these were all cishet identifying boys at the time, and because i was expressing that i wished i could be in scouts with them, they actually went to their scout leader on my behalf to ask if i could be let in even though i was a "girl". they didn't see me as any different than them. they didn't understand why i couldn't be a part of it.

if you ask me, that's all the proof anyone needs that transphobia & misogyny are learned, not innate. these boys were not old enough to have it drilled into their head at "girls" can't do things that boys "can". they were too young to understand that a "girl" wanting to be masc and seen as a boy could ever be a "bad thing". they saw me as one of the boys. it was never questioned. i actually visited all of these friends after i transitioned and started T and none of them had issues.

they always saw me as one of the boys, to the point of fighting on my behalf to try to get me accepted into their boyscout troop. transphobia, misogyny, and all of these other forms of hatred are learned. not innate. don't let anyone brainwash you into thinking that boys and men are inherently hateful. they're not

People pretend that transandrophobia = Misandry just so they can keep harassing, abusing and being awful pieces of shit to transmascs while pretending it "doesn't happen".

oh no, I'm in the furry community. I know exactly how people react they find out.

I'd actually argue that furries are usually way worse, in terms of trying to justify it.

Here we have, yet another intersexism train wreck involving a gimmick blog!

Our saga starts here. This original ask was tagged with "#intersex appreciation" for context.

Next we have, how not to respond to being corrected on your intersexism!

Imagine if someone used literally any other queerphobic slur & stereotyped a group of queer people. Now imagine someone took the time to clarify why this is bad and that alternative words exist - and then their response was "ok whatever block me".

You'd be dragged and publicly derided as a queerphobic bigot if this was about any other group in the queer community. But not when it's intersex people. We are considered an acceptable target, and our voices are seen as "tumblr level reading comprehension", and people love to "correct" others using more slurs.

You are right, official-penis-posts, that is another slur. And how did you respond?

Not well. To say the least. "Because everything's a slur" you sound like an anti-woke podcast guy.

"I live in the real world"? Seriously? I do too, @official-penis-posts, and my real world involves being called a fucking hermaphrodite in an urgent care by an actual medical professional who very rudely questioned why my genitals were weren't (typo) "corrected" (mutilated) when I was a child. It involves people calling me a futanari in high school. It involves people being disgusted at what "a real hermaphrodite's" genitals look like when I decide share that as a sexually active adult.

And for the record the anon correction is wrong here too, hermaphrodite is a slur in every context and has referred to intersex human beings long before it was ever used for cosexual animals. Stop saying fucking slurs.

Hello person who runs the penis gimmick blog, as an intersex person who used to follow you and thinks dick jokes are funny; I'd like you to apologize for your intersexism and the way you responded to intersex people correcting you. Intersexism is an incredibly widespread form of bigotry, most people have intersexist ideas and worldviews unless it is corrected. What I dislike is the way you have dismissed intersex people's concerns as overdramatic whiney nonsense and chose to just delete your posts to save face instead of apologizing.

people on here will brag about how awful they are to AFAB trans people ("""TMEs""") like they're somehow getting back at the cishet queerphobes. i don't know how to break it to you that cishet queerphobes also hate AFAB people. you're not being progressive by doing the exact same thing but because AFAB trans people aren't "acceptable" trans people, or whatever. singling out and bullying and abusing AFAB trans people isn't helping society accept AMAB trans women any faster. admitting that you don't view them as trans is literal transphobia. it's the exact same shit you were taught by cisheteronormative patriarchy. you're not coming up with something new by finding even more ways and reasons to treat AFAB trans people like shit.

cisheteronormative patriarchy already discredits AFAB people and tells them they can't be reliable narrators and that they have no idea what they're talking about, especially with regards to their own identities and the decisions they make. this isn't feminism. this isn't gender or sex liberation. it's the opposite. you don't get to treat AFAB people like shit just like literally everyone else and try to put some kind of fake radical liberal spin on it to make it acceptable.

Would it kill you people to acknowledge non-binary and genderqueer people?

Would it kill you to remember that the terms transmasculine and transfeminine are not synonymous with binary trans men and binary trans women?

Would it kill you to remember that there are those who are not transmasculine and face the same issues as transmasculine people and that there are those who are not transfeminine but face the same issues as transfeminine people?

Would it kill you to add even a token acknowledgment of non-binary and genderqueer people when you talk about trans issues in a needlessly and harmfully binary way?

Would it fucking kill you to stop and think about us for a single moment?

So. Y’all.

These posts about how trans men’s fears about being treated like breeding stock with forced pregnancy and breastfeeding is aCtuAlLy privilege because trans women can’t give birth? And if trans men talk about ‘throwing away’ the ability to make babies it’s really just trans men ‘rubbing’ having this particular set of reproductive organs in trans women’s faces?

I need you to take several fucking seats and even more fucking minutes to reevaluate yourselves.

1: Forced pregnancy is not a fucking privilege and, for some of us, could be debilitating or a potential death sentence.

I’m a disabled trans man and due to some medical issues, I’ve been told since I was a pre-teen that I cannot ever have a ‘natural’ birth. It would destroy my already fucked up body and put me back into a wheelchair and through several more surgeries, all of which are ill advised because, and this brings us to another issue…

“JuSt hAvE a C-seCtiOn.”

Well bozos, being allergic to a wealth of medications including ANESTHETIC DRUGS kind of makes that super dangerous for me. I’ve had a total of three major surgeries in my life and each one resulted in complications because of the anesthesia, and my surgeons all said ‘avoid needing surgery if you can’. Even localized anesthetic is out. (Which is why I’m also one of those non-passing trans men y’all love to claim doesn’t exist! Try getting a doctor to sign off on top surgery when you’re a known liability! Oh yes, that must be part of my mythical male privilege too!)

I’m not the only trans man in the world with medical issues that make pregnancy dangerous. So check your ignorance and your ableism. And none of this even takes the most basic issue into account.

2: Let’s call ‘forced pregnancy’ what it really is. It’s rape. Some of you are expecting us to accept rape as a ‘privilege’. Some of you are even cheering for it.

If I have to explain why that’s a problem? Yeah, no, I’m not wasting my time at that point on you.

Block people who make bad faith posts about trans women's struggles by saying trans men do not struggle.

Block people who post on trans men's vents by suggesting they don't suffer as profoundly as their sisters.

Block people who try to make you turn against the women and others who make up our family.

Do not allow yourself to become bitter and jealous, protect yourself and you will be protecting our community.

Thank you so much for the post about why you defend trans men. I literally JUST got another death threat, and seeing that immediately after kept me sane. Thank you so much

I am so sorry you're getting death threats, it blows my mind that people think that it's ok to treat y'all like this.

Please take care of yourself first and foremost, and don't be afraid to take a step back from discourse if you need to.

trans guys: hey! this awful violating thing can and has happened to us and we need to be more aware of it as things get worse for trans ppl everywhere

the stupidest people alive: but have you considered it makes me personally feel bad when you talk about it? and actually youre a bigot for even bringing it up in the first place because what about the people that cant have that happen to them but have other similar things happen? honestly i think you just hate trans women and cant stand when things arent about you