I Find Eurylochus To Be A Funny Character, Whoever, People Put To Much Blame On His Shoulders Because

I find Eurylochus to be a funny character, whoever, people put to much blame on his shoulders because of stuff like the bag, and leaving men in Circe's island or for Mutiny.

But I'm not here to talk about that, I want to talk about his wife Ctimene, because I saw a video of her being rightfully mad that she doesn't see her husband. And most of not all of the comments are "Well if SOMEONE hadn't done X, Y and X".

And like... That is not the point.

How I see it, Ctimene loved her husband as much as Odysseus loves Penelope, and she trusted her BROTHER to bring back her husband safe, which he didn't do.

And maybe I'm over stepping but if my SISTER trusted me with bringing her husband back, who is also my friend and second in command, bitch even with all three things that he did I have to bring him with me, I have to keep him alive even if I'm mad at him just for the sake of my sister being happy.

But he didn't do anything, Odysseus was selfish, he was so far down in his monster era that he forgot that Penelope, Telemachus and Ithaca as a whole weren't the only ones waiting for him. His sister was waiting for him, and his sister was waiting for her husband the second in command.

Let's even flip and add to the script here, if we had been told that Eurylochus opened the bag because he wanted at least one thing of the treasure inside just to give it to his wife, would you still be mad at him for doing so?

Am I being mean to Odysseus and I hate him? No. Am I babying Eurylochus and making excuses for him? No.

They each have their faults and those hurt the people around them, and in Odysseus case he hurt his sister.

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Sans And Papyrus From Undertale Are In Love. There's Nothing You Can Do To Stop Them.

Sans and Papyrus from Undertale are in love. There's nothing you can do to stop them.

2 months ago

I just want to cry thinking that since the last time ive read this damn series ive changed and grown and matured so fucking much and i remember most of what happens in the series and still. STILL. Its so fucking exciting??? Im on the edge of my seat. And there was a new chapter posted about a year ago. And the first chapter of this series was posted in 2019. Insanity. I read this on my school chromebook during english class. So many times. It kept me going through the worst of my depression. Fanfiction i love you. Snarry i love you. I almost got cancelled once because of snarry fanart but internet clout is temporary, SSHP is forever. Sorry this post is incomprehensibly and has no story beats or anything. No key frames. Just love.

4 months ago

Such an amazing concept! I can't wait to read an update ❤️❤️

Once upon a time…

A whisper could be heard among the hills of an old abandoned land. A prophecy where it was said that an angel would come from heaven, bring glory to the world plunged into darkness and with his roar, would open the earth for it's rise.

But the prophecy was simply modified until it became a legend. However, it was never forgotten, since, in any case.

Once Upon A Time…

It was also whispered that the angel, whether of perdition or hope, would be much greater than the Sun itself.

Hello everyone, welcome to this post where i will introduce to you my story on Archive of our Own or AO3 about the theory of Papyrus being the Knight.

Must say that this took so long to publish due to some issues i had to fix, but now i can say everything is ready for you to enjoy!

With the following, I will give you some extra information about this story.

This story/AU is inspired by the theory of Papyrus the Knight, where you will see his point of view and his evolution.

Some characters have changed in age, like Papyrus in this case.

I apologize in advance if the story has grammatical errors, it is not my first language but I use several tools to make it understandable and enjoyable to read!

There may be slow updates, because I have external issues that may prevent me from updating frequently, but I will do everything in my power to achieve this.

This story is completely separate from the comic i did time ago.

And I don't need to say much more, you will have to discover that for yourself during your reading!

Now, let's start with the fun stuff!

Once Upon A Time…

Meet… "The Advisor"!

What? Does he have another name? Well, yes, but not right now.

This charismatic Darkner is the one who guides and advises Papyrus and his teacher, Dess.

As his name suggests, he is the advisor to the King of Spades.

He is enigmatic but very charming!

Once Upon A Time…

Meet the intimidating and powerful royal sorceress, Dess…!

Yes, strangely enough, she is only known by that nickname.

Dess is known as the Ice Sorceress, due to her superb control over magic and being very strong and good at hitting things!

(She is a bit grumpy but nice if you know her better.)

Once Upon A Time…

And let's not forget this charismatic skeleton that everyone knows!

Say hello to the GREAT PAPYRUS!

our dear knight, who is always excited to learn and protect others!

Believe in him or not, he will show you how cool he is!

Now that you know them, what are you waiting for to read their adventures?

Here is the link so you can go read it, I wish you a pleasant and interesting experience!

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8 months ago

Ok I’m doing it. Idk if anyone will read this but here’s a compilation of all the stancest crumbs from bill’s book along with a stancest endgame theory:

I say theory because I can’t think of a better word atm. I know this is obviously not the intention of the text. I am merely taking the information we were given and twisting it to fit my sick agenda. It’s what bill would have wanted (Well maybe not quite like this but lol fuck him anyway).

So! Obviously billford was the star of the show here, but as I learned a little bit more about the codes I didn’t just learn what they say. I learned that all the stancest ship fuel is contained within them, and even tho it’s not much in comparison, what we did get is pretty profound!

Ok I’m Doing It. Idk If Anyone Will Read This But Here’s A Compilation Of All The Stancest Crumbs

There was a brand new code alphabet introduced in this book that we’ve never seen before. This cute little bros code that Stan and Ford invented when they were kids. Besides this image, this code is used only three times in the entire book.

The first (and insanely subtle) instance is on this page where ford concludes that Stan is the only person he can turn to after bill drives him to his breaking point:

Ok I’m Doing It. Idk If Anyone Will Read This But Here’s A Compilation Of All The Stancest Crumbs

It’s very small and hard to make out. On the window amid the equations.

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It says: “miss you”

Pertaining the contents of this page, my first thought was that this is probably meant to be interpreted as a message directed at Fiddleford. But that wouldn’t really make sense given how it’s presented. This wasn’t written in after the fact. It couldn’t be directed at Fiddleford, they’re standing together arm in arm. It’s a code only Ford and Stan know, and this pic wasn’t taken long after they separated. This message must be about Stanley.

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Ford uses the code on the next page, the last lost journal page where he’s talking about reaching out to Stan. It translates to: “have I been too harsh all along?”

This is so gut wrenching to me because he’s never written in this code literally anywhere else in the entire journal. And he says this vulnerable little line about Stanley in this code he probably hasn’t used in years but still remembers, in this code that only Stan would be able to understand besides himself.

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The last usage is by Stan. Because the rest of the family is watching him write this, to the rest of them it just looks like he’s censoring his cussing for the kids’ sakes. But to ford, stan’s slyly writing him a little message that only he can see…

And what does it say?

“Love ya bro”

Ford’s arc in this book is realizing he should put his attention and concern in the ones that love him rather than fueling his obsessive hatred toward the one who hurt him. He comes to understand that he’ll be happier if he’s open about his past and rely on his family whose affection isn’t conditional like bill’s was. He moves past his shame, and comes out of the paranoid isolation that bill had encouraged him into.

And of course he receives this comfort from his whole family. But I think it’s very interesting how bill is framed as this toxic ex, Fiddleford is framed as the one he should have put his trust in during that pivotal time in 80s where ford ultimately blew his chance, and then there’s Stan.

Stan is hardly brought up at all but his presence lingers in more than few of Ford’s vulnerable journal entries. Stan is the one who put Bill in his place. Stan is the one who made Ford realize where his priorities should be. Stan is the one who’s accepted him all along and is the one remaining by his side in the end.

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Bill even blames Stan for stealing ford from him like a jealous ex who can’t stand the fact that ford has moved on with someone else. (This is directed at the reader but it mirrors his frustration with the stans when they worked together to defeat him)

Ok I’m Doing It. Idk If Anyone Will Read This But Here’s A Compilation Of All The Stancest Crumbs

In conclusion: incest somehow ended up being the healthiest partnership option all along. Who knew?

BONUS CODE THAT CAN BE MISCONSTRUED IN A MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE WAY:

Ok I’m Doing It. Idk If Anyone Will Read This But Here’s A Compilation Of All The Stancest Crumbs

At the bottom of the first lost journal page where he’s talking about his loneliness and yearning for human connection, he mentions Stan in a code again. After embarrassing himself in front of the waitress he says: “Stanley could have made her laugh” 💔

2 months ago

I randomly remembered a quote from a love confession where they said "want you? I crave you" and I was hit with all the incredible emotions I felt. Desperate to rewatch the movie to experience it again, I searched the quote but I just could not find what movie it was from anywhere.

Only to realise... it was from a snarry fanfiction

1 month ago

Who wants a rant on why Eurylochus (in Epic) did nothing wrong? No one? TOO DAMN BAD!

SO! 1.) The wind bag. See, Odysseus did NOT, in fact, tell them what was in the bag. In the Odyssey, Odysseus tells no one what the wind bag is. In Epic, he tells Elpenor and Perimedes. None of that would matter, though, because Odysseus is also a well known liar. If the guy who lies constantly, including at points where there is literally no reason to lie, tells you the bag which is almost certainly full of treasure is actually full of air, that bag is full of treasure.

2.) Circe's island (with relation to his reaction to Scylla) Suggesting they leave the 14(?) men who Circe had taken is not the same as outright sacrificing six men. Circe is an extremely powerful spellcaster, much more powerful than anyone Ithaca had to offer. That meant that, if they got the men back, they would very likely still be pigs. Only Circe and a handful of other extremely powerful spellcasters could turn them back into men. meaning that they wouldn't actually be saving the men at all, they would be acquiring pigs. These pigs would be pigs until they died. It would be much better to simply leave the pigs with Circe and her nymphs, knowing they'd be taken care of, than to bring them on a perilous journey by ship when they knew they were being hunted by Poseidon.

3.) The mutiny. Valid crash-out, outright. Jorge has said that Eurylochus acts as the voice of the crew, and the crew has just lost six members. They're tired, they're angry, and the main things they probably remember right then are Scylla and Polyphemus. Whether or not any of this is Odysseus' fault, they (very fairly) blame him. If your boss is willing to fire you to get home a little earlier, report him to HR. If your captain is willing to kill you to get home, mutiny.

4.) The cows. By this point, the crew haven't eaten in days. This is inevitably leading to a Donner Party style situation, and looky here, there are a bunch of cows. And look again, LYING MOTHERFUCKIN ODYSSEUS says that you CAN'T eat these cows! Why? He won't say! (he doesn't in the song. He does in the myth, I think, but again, LYING Odysseus.) Hunger rewires your brain chemistry to do things that are utterly illogical for food. The other important thing to remember is that Eurylochus quite likely does not believe they're going to survive at all. They can't, actually. If they leave the island and the cows, they'll likely starve to death. As a demigod of sorts, Odysseus will take a somewhat longer time to starve to death, but the rest of the crew will very likely be dead in a week. If starvation doesn't take them, Poseidon is still trying to kill them! If Poseidon doesn't kill them, these men are still aging. If it takes them another year, even another six months to get home, they're not young men. More of them will die on the journey. They can't fight or run like they could 12 years ago, any danger they encounter will kill more of them. Dying here, with full stomachs on nice grass, very likely seems like the best option to the starved minds of the crew.

5.) The final, all encompassing, important point. Odysseus is familiar with the gods. His great-grandfathers are Hermes and Zeus, he was trained by Athena. This means that he likely has a much more grounded, personified idea of the gods. Eurylochus, and by extension, the rest of the crew, do not. Poseidon's wrath is not something to be avoided, it's the unquestionable end. Circe's curse isn't something to be undone, it's permanent. Helios' grief isn't something to be a little wary of, it's the very welcome grand finale to their journey. It will leave them as a tragedy, but it will end them, finally.

7 months ago

stancest is healthier than billford ok byeee

8 months ago

Caught You Looking

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“If ya wanted to check me out in these booty shorts, Sixer, all ya had to do was ask.  Y’know, it’s perfectly normal to be curious!

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7 months ago

Yay! Thank you for responding to my last ask :) I absolutely love the family (Steve, Larry and Rob) Can I know your Mr. Small or Robert headcanons too?

Oughh This one’s pretty long, so once again putting it under a cut ⬇️

(Like last time, if u don’t care abt me yapping there’s some drawings down there too haha)

• Mr Small likes anime and cosplay.

The biggest reason for this is his cosplay of Sailor Moon in “The Ghouls” episode. But along with cosplay I feel like he just likes to dress up in general. He has a surprisingly large amount of outfits throughout the series like: The honesty bear (The sock), Criminal Bozo fit (The allergie), Classic Hippie fit (The Silence), The Small hours music video fits (The Singing) and a couple more that he wears frequently like his rollerblading fit and his meditation fit. And those are just the ones that come to my head first, there’s definitely more in the show I think. He also has a bunch of outfits in the comics but I haven’t read those (yet. I really want them)

Similarly Larry does the same thing actually. Although, it makes more sense for him since he does it specifically for work reasons (And we see him so much more often). The thing is about Larry’s outfits is that I think are especially cute is that he dresses up for his role (specifically as a stereotypical worker you’d expect to see in whichever store he’s in) even if there isn’t a specific uniform. I’ve made a post about this before right here. Basically something I noticed is that he puts on temporary tattoos for a few of his jobs, not to mention he literally put on a fake gotee for his barber outfit. I like to think Larry is too busy to have his own hobbies but he accidentally adopted dressing up and he thoroughly enjoys it, even if he’s not exactly aware that he’s doing it.

• Rob takes both of Larry and Steve’s last names after being adopted.

I’ve thought for a long time which last name was gonna be their family last name but I was sooo hung up about it cuz both Larry and Mr Small’s last names are pretty important to their work. Larry is known all over town for being “Larry Needlemeyer” so it would be a pain to get that changed for him and be bad for his publicity as a well known worker. As for Mr Small he’s literally a teacher, everyone at his workspace adresses him by last name so it would be strange for him to change names as well. Basically what I’ve settled with for now is that they would share a hyphenated last name. So Mr Small’s would be “Steven Needlemeyer-Small” and Larry’s would be “Laurence Needlemeyer-Small”. This same thing would apply for Rob with him being “Rob Needlemeyer-Small”. I feel like this would be the best way for them to share a family name while staying consistent and least confusing. Plus it won’t affect neither Steve’s or Larry’s jobs all that much.

• Rob has a million nicknames

We all know the gag about Rob being called different names. I think it would be fun if when Larry and/or Steve calls for him (whether they need help or he’s in trouble) they call him by different variations of “Rob” like: Robert, Robbie, Roberto etc… I think his legal name would be still be just “Rob” tho, there’s really no reason for it to be anything else as that’s the name he remembers after getting out of the void.

• Mr Small is really bad at relationships

The thing about Mr Small his the he is one of the few middle aged adults in the show without a spouse or family members at all. Almost all of the middle aged adults in the show are the same age, we know this because they all went to school together but most importantly because they all went to prom together. My point is, almost all of the people he went to school with are either married, dating someone or have children of their own. Meanwhile he is single, no known family and doesn’t seem to have many friends outside of work. We even see him talking to Mr Corneille about his struggles online dating (The Wish), admittedly he wasn’t on a dating website but rather a pizza delivery app but that even further shows how he’s not super good with social queues and close relationships as he couldn’t tell the difference.

To contrast Mr Small, Larry is super good with people interactions. Obviously, with his work he needs to be. But as far as romantic relationship go, I think he’d be a very stereotypical good boyfriend type. Where he’d take his dates to nice restaurants, buy them flowers or go for walks. He likes things simple and classic.

• Rob likes video games

Idk I don’t really have a reason for this one. I think he’d constantly play Super Smash Bros on a Nintendo switch he was gifted for Christmas or smth lmaoo. The idea of him ragging online is very funny to me, especially if it’s stupid simple kids games where there isn’t much brain power to do them. He’d stream “Playing Fireboy and Water girl by myself!” if Larry let him.

Yay! Thank You For Responding To My Last Ask :) I Absolutely Love The Family (Steve, Larry And Rob) Can

Okay that’s already too much writing for one post, but if you wanna know more feel free to ask for it! ❤️

(I may not answer right away, but I appreciate the asks really!)

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