Me: *sees A Good Anti-jkr Post Pointing Out That Its Still Fucked Up To Interact With The Fandom*

Y’know how trans women have identified a phenomenon where, even though they are women and may have known themselves to be women for quite a while, accepting cis women will treat them as though they are guests to womanhood, like lesser women, or like they’re new to it, or as though they could not possibly already know what it’s like being a woman?

Some trans people do that at trans men with transness. Trans men aren’t lesser trans or guests in transness who don’t understand what it’s like to be trans.

I notice that I‘m scared to even speak about this issue sometimes. I feel like a coward. Idk what to do about it, because I can’t just keep quiet when I hear people just straight up deny transmasc oppression. But I already know their reaction. They will not take me seriously. They will twist my words. They will double down and ignore the evidence. Even when I show them literal statistics of SA in transmascs, somehow that doesn’t matter.

The way some of you people treat trans men and transmascs is reprehensible.

Fascists won't spare you for kissing the boots that they're putting on your trans sibling's necks.

but sure, shinigami eyes loves trans people... it just endorses people who want trans men/mascs to kill themselves! thats not transphobic! (heavy sarcasm)

i think words like transandrophobia and transmisogyny are useful in theory, but in practice they drive division and end up harmful to the wider trans struggle. (explanation in simple words at the bottom)

i think it can be useful to have words to describe different flavors of discrimination we face depending on how we are percieved by society. the problem occurs when these words stop being treated as descriptors, and instead get used as labels.

i'm sure you've seen the TMA/TME discourse. TMA = transmisogyny affected, TME = transmisogyny exempt. in practice, these terms are used as "trans women and fems" (TMA) and "everyone else who is trans" (TME). there's a few problems i have with this.

first, as a transneutral person, i would be labeled TME. but the group of drunk dudes who chased me down screaming that i'll never be a real woman, they don't care about that. they see me, a trans person, they assign their own interpretation to my gender presentation, and decide to intimidate me based on their interpretation. i have faced transmisogyny many times, despite some tumblr users insisting i am exempt from it.

second, it puts people back into a rigid binary. as a nonbinary person, i'm well aware of how restrictive and oppressive binaries are, and this one is not any different. even if it's repackaged as trans-friendly, it still denies many people the entirety of their experience and only allows a little, specific part of it.

and third, i simply do not think that any of us in this community are exempt from transmisogyny. in my experience the difference between experiencing transmisogyny or transandrophobia is what the other person percieves me as. if you really wanted to call someone exempt, make it cis people - but also keep in mind that not all of them are. think GNC people, butches, drag queens, the list goes on. i find it difficult to call these people exempt, even if they aren't trans. and i acknowledge that if you're read most of the time as your binary gender (as in you pass, but i strongly dislike that word), you will face much more of one flavor of opression than the other. but taking the experience of only binary trans people who are read as their gender and calling it universal is incredibly exorsexist. most of us will have experienced both.

all these flavors of discrimination, transmisogyny, transandrophobia, even exorsexism and intersexism, it all stems from the same narrow bioessentialist understanding of sex and gender as strictly binary.

in conclusion, i think words like transmisogyny and transandrophobia can be useful to describe experiences with different flavors of anti-trans bigotry. however some people have started treating them as a strict binary of affected-exempt, and that is not rooted in reality or helpful. i'm inclined to say at this point, these terms create infighting instead of being helpful, and make us forget that the root cause of all the discrimination we face is the same.

explanation in simple words: transandrophobia (discrimination against masculine transness) and transmisogyny (discrimination against feminine transness) can be useful words to describe own experiences. but some people use these words to divide trans community into boxes. i think that is not good. it makes us forget we all want to fight transphobia. makes us fight each other instead, and that is not helpful.

the fact a lot of trfs are MLs is further proof Marxist-Leninists are just fascists trying to redirect socialist efforts away from destroying the bourgeoisie

Please stop forgetting nonbinary people!

Theyfab isn't a transmasc-specific slur. It's always been used against any nonbinary person assumed to be AFAB.

Though the AGAB of nonbinary people is nobody's business in the first place, it bears repeating that not every AFAB nonbinary person is transmasculine, just as not every AMAB nonbinary person is transfeminine.

These bigots aren't just transphobic towards trans men/mascs, they're exorsexist as well. We'll be stronger if we stick up for each other and push back against them together!

trying so hard not to notice how 90% of trans positivity posts on this website exclude nonbinary people

Aside from the compulsion to claim historical trans men as women for feminist history, I've also noticed attempts to neutralize trans men into non binary figures.

Of course, language surrounding non binary identities in the western world is relatively new, so someone from the 1800s might have had some long winded way of saying they were non binary.

But take the case of Megillus from Lucien's writings in Ancient Greece, who will say "I am entirely a man" and still have people being like, oh they're just a confused little girl product of restricted language. There is no way they really mean it when they say explicitly they are 100% a man. Obvious example of non-binary identity.

Obviously non binary people deserve to see themselves in history, but like...c'mon...

Just something I've noticed in my research into trans men of the past

"theyfab" "pooner" "trutherina" bestie i think you might just be a misogynist