No Tags Because What The Actual Fuck?

christians love saying people have victim mentalities but the second u push back they become martyred and crucified on the cross itself, you're the meanest worstest eviliest awfullest person and they are but a poor persecuted most villified christian

Christians, or far-right zealots?

Getting absolutely knocked on my ass by the idea that, in a literal interpretation of the Genesis account of Eden, we were never supposed to have the knowledge of good and evil.

"Satan is the cause of all evil!"

If Satan exists. He was made. By god.

You cannot have it both ways. Where your god made & is responsible for everything and yet is powerless in the face of its creation & abandoned it to one rebellious child.

And may I remind you...

Angels were not given free will.

Anything done by Satan may as well be sanctioned by your god.

The other thing about discussing harmful things about the christian church and getting "that's not what that verse really means/that's not how that doctrine should be applied/that's not actually supported biblically/etc" back is that... at a certain point it doesn't matter. Yes there are varying beliefs within christianity (understatement with 45,000 different denominations lmao), but you don't get to claim that christianity is separate from any harmful beliefs when a lot of harmful beliefs are the majority.

You can say "the bible wasn't ever talking about gay relationships in [xyz] verses" but that doesn't make the average church actually safe and affirming for queer people. You can say "actually hell doesn't have any biblical backing" but that doesn't mean very much when like 75-80% of christians believe in hell. You can say "men and women are equal in the eyes of the Lord" but it doesn't erase the rampant misogyny in christian culture.

If the members make up the church, if members are the church, then at a certain point the cultural beliefs or majority beliefs have precedence over what was intended. You can't say "oh just ignore [belief/doctrine/interpretation/etc]" when that would be dismissing the church's most predominant collective beliefs. You don't get to just disregard harm because that "wasn't the intention". You don't get to look at the result of said harm and decide it doesn't matter because it makes you look bad.

when I was very young my mother told me “they’re going to try and teach you that we came from monkeys but that’s not true and you shouldn’t listen to them because we were made from god” and she was my mom and I was like 7, so I pretty much just went “okay, noted, anyway”

anyway like 2 years later evolution comes up in class and one of my classmates goes “is this the we evolved from monkeys thing?”

and I’m on Red Alert. this is what my mom told me about!

the teacher replies, “well, we share a common ancestor, but we didn’t evolve directly from apes. if you go back way before apes or people existed, you’ll find a different third thing we both came from. we know this because of things like fossils”

and I was like whoo! dodged a bullet there, good thing my 4th grade science class isn’t trying to teach us we came from monkeys and instead figured stuff out using fossils and taught us that instead :)

Instructions Unclear, Ended Up Believing In Evolution Anyway

christians and catholics will say “thank god he favors me unlike those people out there suffering. he deserves praise” and think there’s nothing wrong with that statement