Me and my friends were talking yesterday about Taylor and Joe’s break up and how we all think Joe’s ‘normal grounded life’ that Taylor loved and needed so much at the time, is something she actually grew out of and didn’t need anymore because Joe didn’t grow with her when she got better enough to not really want or need to hide. He was still stuck in the same spot and didn’t really want to change or compromise and only really liked Taylor’s fame and money when it benefited him in the end. I do think they became very mismatched by the end too and didn’t want the same things from their relationship anymore and Taylor literally tried so hard to make it work and accommodate all his needs but it was never really requited. Yes he was there for her when she needed him in the first couple of years but even that now seems like he enjoyed being the saviour.
Yes, what you guys landed on hits all the conversation points we've been having. It's exactly what happened and then you sprinkle the details in as shown in Taylor's songs the last couple of years and its crystal clear how the dynamic changed.
— harry styles two ghosts headers
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bestie trouble and him are the only ones abojt taylor im pretty sure? i listened to them and nothing about complicated freak or baby honey points towards taylor (him and trouble are also 1d songs whereas complicated freak and baby honey are scrapped hs1 songs so i don’t think the latter two are about her lol)
the harry stans i know are all 100% positive the latter two are also about her (it’s not like he wasn’t writing about her for HS1 anyway). paging @cowboylikedean to explain.
the thing about haylor is i dont want them together i dont think they were the pinnacle of a perfect relationship i just find their dynamic and the way they write about each other SO ENDLESSLY INTERESTING. like i am a fan of the art of haylorism not shipping these two humans together as actual end game. does this make sense?
i don’t think it takes place in the present day at all! i’m even so far convinced that taylor dove into the body and mind of her 2014 self and wrote the song, how she felt during that time and the things she wanted to say/ask in that period of her life. like i’m pretty sure “you’re still with her” is the same girl that was in style “you’ve been out and about with some other girl”
I'm not fully convinced that Question...? takes place during pressnt day. It's been quite a while and the idea that Harry is still pining over Taylor, or that Taylor believes him to be, seems far-fetched. I feel like it maybe takes place around 2016 before she got committed with Joe (hence the "second-best" line) or maybe up to 2018 or so.
Of course, it definitely can still be present day. It's human to still feel petty about an ex not fighting for you, and bask in the fact that they regret not having you. And the "still with her" line fits the duration of Holivia more than anything else. But I dunno. That's the thing for me. He's been with Olivia for 2 years or so now. What reason would Taylor have to think that Harry still pines? I'm not totally convinced, but it's possible that the song represents her current thoughts. (I do think Harry probably carries *something* for her, though.) You can get a certain vibe off your ex even if you haven't spoken with them, and assume their relationship is shallow or inadequate, but I digress.
I don't necessarily even think it's more likely that the song takes place in the plast, but I don't see many people discussing the possibility.
Harry Styles’ mum just tweeted a buzzfeed article filled with pictures of harrys head on taylors body that is so funny what the fuck lmao
does anyone remember when she said she was afraid to play non singles at tours because she didn’t think people would know the lyrics? pls help a swiftie out explaining to her irls why being upset about this isn’t completely insane 😭😭
no but i really want to ask taylor who was literally afraid to play non singles at her tours because she didn't think people would know the words how she feels about this situation and why no one involved in this process didn't come up with a better plan for actual fans to be able to attend the ERAS tour...this tour is literally FOR fans who have been around since '06 or '08 or even 2016 ffs but instead it seems to have gone almost entirely to people who just like folklore like please make it make sense
the red album is so great because you can lay on your bed and listen to the whole thing and you stay captivated the entire time and when you’re done it feels like you just experienced this burning love and excruciating heartbreak and it hurts a little but it’s also a relief to know that you can survive pain like that. it’s almost like red is haunted.
"the truth is i can't pretend it's platonic"/"i cannot be your friend"
"it's weird cause the guy that is about and i are friends and i don't talk about my relationships hut i do my friendships"/spending the day at caleb's party together/harry yelling across the restaurant that they're friends
taylor in 1989 promo: I'M SINGLE PRINGLE
every haylor stan in 2015 : NO YOU WEREN'T
but the theory doesn’t insist on the song being about calvin or joe tho especially joe because it’s before they met? i think maybe she had some parts done in 2015 here but redid it later in 2016 and changed it obviously
Part Two Part One here
August 29 - "This summer is the apocalypse" Nashville, TN [Lover Journals], Taylor attends jury duty in Nashville
August 31 - Taylor seen in NY
September 2 - Taylor begins writing Gorgeous in Cornelia St apartment
September 6 - Taylor papped leaving gym in NY, writing King Of My Heart
September 9 - Taylor papped leaving gym in NY
September 16 - Still writing Gorgeous - Now in Nashville
September 17 - Taylor attends Music City Wine and Food Festival in Nashville. Writing Gorgeous after festival (same outfit)
September 19 - Taylor flies to NY and attends Max Martin & Shellback studio. (The Swift Life video) Works on Gorgeous, I Did Something Bad, Delicate & King Of My Heart
September 20 - King Of My Heart bridge in LA
September 21 - Records King Of My Heart at Max Martin & Shellback studio.
September 27 - Taylor attends dinner in NYC at the Waverly Inn with Cara, Jack, Lorde, Suki Waterhouse and Sienna Miller
October - November - Harry recording HS1 in Jamaica
October 12 - Taylor & Joe attend Kings of Leon concert at Le Poisson Rouge in NYC, afterparty at The Bowery Hotel. October 15 - Taylor attends Elliot Sumner's party. Delicate is written/recorded somewhere here - See Taylors neck tattoo in making of:
October 21 - "Someday" is released.
October 22 - Taylor performs at F1 in Austin
October 23 - Taylor attends Drakes birthday with golden tattoo
October 28 - Taylor flies to London, MIA
October 31 - Taylor returns to NYC, Deadpool halloween
November 12 - Taylor attends Joe's movie screening at Arclight Theatre: "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" November 23 - Taylor papped in NY
December 09 - I Don't Wanna Live Forever released.
December 28 - Unconfirmed haylor sighting.
January 03 - "Living in London, hiding out. Joe and I have been together 3 months" [Lover Journals]
January 08 - I Don't Wanna Live Forever video filmed in London.
January 11 - Taylor papped leaving gym in LA, attends Conway Studios. (Don't Blame Me recorded at Conway) She's also wearing her "J" necklace in these vids
February 18 - Taylor spotted in London
April 04 - Taylor recording reputation in Nashville (The hair around this time seems to be matching that in the Jack tracks from rep. He's wearing the same T-shirt in Getaway Car & This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things. Call It What You Want is also around here
April 18 - Harry's Rolling Stone interview
April 29 - Harry celebrates the anniversary of April 29.
May 12 - Harry releases HS1
May 14 - Taylor papped in Nashville, leaves for London
Mid May - …Ready For It? recorded at MXM Studios in Sweden
May 18 - Harry on Carpool Karaoke, wears Haylor ring.
May 20 - Haylor anniversary. Harry emotional on stage, sings Landslide with Stevie Nicks.
June 01 - Taylor & Joe leave London for LA, then Nashville
June 03 - Joe & Taylor papped in Nashville
June 11 – Joe disembarks Taylor’s jet in London.
June 18 – Taylor in London for fathers day.
June 30 – Taylor & Joe disembark Taylor’s jet in Rhode Island
July - Harry & Camile
July 15 – End Game written. Ed Sheeran confirms that they started working on it when he was in Mohegan Sun, Connecticut for his Divide Tour and Taylor was staying in RI.
July 19 - Dunkirk released
July 24 – Joe & Taylor papped leaving gym in NYC
August 21 - Taylor films …Ready For It? music video
August 28 - Taylor deletes Instagram
September 03 - …Ready For It? released
Mid September - Taylor writes and records So It Goes. (Final track recorded with Martin & Shellback) Rep mag track listings don't match up indicating last minute adjustments
October 20 - Gorgeous released
October 26 - …Ready For It? MV released
November 02 - Call It What You Want released
November 10 - reputation released