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yes yes touya is experiencing a ‘slow death’ if by slow death you mean being 32 years old and unemployed and living in his successful happily married younger brothers spare bedroom

Hear me out:

People who don't want the villians to get saved because "it's not realistic because you can't save everyone" like sir people can shoot flames out of their buthole here. You can excuse frog people, rabbit people, and washing machine people but you draw the line at saving people?

Heat lamp you want, Heat lamp it is

dumb as shit

Not-Really Chapter Thoughts BNHA 424

You know, I really think there should be a point at which Deku rushing in with no plan and doing whatever he thinks feels right should become Heroic Malpractice.

Just me?

Because, like, Shouto had a plan. He spent the time between the two war arcs specifically developing a brand-new combat technique that he planned to use to shut down Dabi's combat advantage without killing him. He convinced his dad not to change the plan like Endeavor was hesitantly sounding him out about[1]; he went out and talked and asked questions, and even if they weren't the right words every single time, he did his best and he did it with intention. If Dabi proves to be dead, it won't be because of anything Shouto did to him; it'll be because Dabi himself chose to stand back up, take a warp gate across the country, pick a fight with the guy who doesn't have the power set to shut him down without unduly hurting him, and try to replicate an Ultimate Move specifically tailored for someone with a balanced power set Dabi doesn't have.[2]

And if Dabi lives, it's still going to be because Shouto booked it across the country and used that same technique to stop him again.

1: Dabi surely would have preferred to fight Endeavor from the start, and it probably would have been the more "just" choice if it had to be one or the other, but Shouto is the nominal focal character between the three of them, so, critiques of the broader Hero-side decisions aside, Shouto's arc has to come first. This is one of those places where you can clearly see how much the decision to let Endeavor survive where Horikoshi originally planned for him to die hurts the shape of the later story.

2: Obviously ultimately if Dabi dies, it's going to be because his family and Team Hero made repeated choices to ignore and neglect him, culminating in the entire family swearing to deal with Touya together only to passively accept a battle plan that involved splitting them all and letting the kid who knows Touya the least be the one to fight him. But like, in the context of that fight, Shouto isn't the reason Dabi takes all that hurt.

Uraraka may or may not have had much of a plan, but at least the words she said to Toga reflected that she had been seriously thinking about Toga in the here and now, what Toga's told her, what Toga needs. If Toga dies, it will be because Toga chose to give Uraraka an unsupervised blood transfusion with no intention of stopping it. (With the same general caveats as in Footnote 2.)

But Deku? From the very beginning, Deku has been valorized by the manga for how much he doesn't plan. All Might tells him specifically that it's a sign of greatness shown by future "top Heroes" that, in some crisis situation, their bodies moved before they could think. Bakugou's Rising chapter is defined by him reaching that same state.

Deku claimed he wanted to save Shigaraki; he's sad in the latest chapter that he couldn't save Tenko's[3] life. But did he ever have a real plan to do that? With all the quirks he had at his disposal - both his own and those who would be in the flying coffin with him, or classmates whose presence he could specifically request - did he think hard and come up with a technique that would let him stop Shigaraki without harming him? Did he try to connect with the Shigaraki right in front of him by citing to the future?

3: And I have nothing but scorn for Deku's insistence on that name when "Tenko" goes out very pointedly calling himself Shigaraki Tomura.

Well, no. Deku obstinately yelled at the phantasms in Shigaraki's mindscape that he had no plan whatsoever. The only plans we saw him carry out were ones handed to him by the OFA collective that involved "breaking" Shigaraki's psyche; the only plans he came up with himself involved more efficiently breaking Shigaraki's body.

Way back in Chapter 130, Nighteye harshly scolded Deku by saying that his way of thinking was arrogant. He said, "Go after him haphazardly and he'll slip through our fingers. You're not so special as to be able to save who you want, when you want. (...) This world is not so accommodating that you can act the Hero because you feel like it."

It felt like something that Deku should have taken to heart, a lesson to be learned and applied later, but I never much got the feeling that he did. Nothing he did in that moment, in that arc, or anywhere else in the series afterward indicates that he thought Nighteye was right. He just chose not to talk back, and the arc ended with Nighteye dead and no longer around to pose objections to Deku's mode of heroism.

But Nighteye was right. Three hundred chapters later, Shigaraki is dead because Deku could not be arsed to plan for how he could stop Shigaraki without killing him. Because he let Gran Fucking Torino give him the intellectual out that killing someone could be a means of saving them. Because he followed his gut instincts of prioritizing the phantom Crying Child that he always saw as more valid and real than the human being standing in front of him.

Because he haphazardly acted the Hero and let his body move without thinking.

And he wants to act sad about it now? I hope Nighteye materializes in his bedroom to sneer at him every night for the rest of his life.

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Incidentally, fuck All Might, seriously. "Wow, Deku and Bakugou, you two are the greatest Heroes ever. Fuck me and everyone else who fought tooth and nail, arm and leg, eye and earjack, life and death, to contribute to the pile of damage that was necessary to kill and/or save Shigaraki and All For One. You two got the last blows in, so you're the only ones who get the credit for it in my eyes. Hero Society is definitely going to be different and better with you two around."

this might be unhinged, but I figured out that at the beginning of that manga (Year Class 1A entered UA/All the events up to and including Deika), Shigaraki Tomura’s Birthday (4/4) likely occurred either on a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday.

In Chapter 7, All Might confronts Aizawa on the first day of classes, and he says that “April Fool’s was a week ago.”

Of course, it doesn’t absolutely mean All Might meant it exactly one week ago, but still. With this information, let’s say the first day was on April 8.

April 8 can either be on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday. This is because Chapters 5 to 12 covers three school days consecutively. First day was Aizawa’s test; Second day was Battle Training; Third day was when the media rushed the school.

The first day can’t be earlier than a Monday. The third day can’t be later than a Friday. Thus, those first three days of school, April 8 to 10, can only be Monday-to-Wednesday, Tuesday-to-Thursday, or Wednesday-to-Friday.

This means that Shigaraki’s 20th Birthday on April 4, four days before April 8, could only be on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday.

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The end of Chapter 11 is when we first meet Shigaraki Tomura, who starts plotting ‘What if I kill All Might’, and this was on the evening of the day of the Battle Training (April 9).

Immediately the next day (April 10), on the morning of that third day with the media frenzy, Shigaraki Tomura is there at UA to disintegrate the gates.

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The USJ invasion would be the next week, on a Wednesday.

It could not have been on the same first week of school because, as above, the first week’s Wednesday was either occupied by Aizawa’s test, battle training, or media frenzy. USJ invasion must happen in the second week of school, on dates April 15th, 16th or 17th.

Cry baby

Good taste on Horikoshi's part to make the samurai lizard the normal motherfucker of the gang. Everyone else has some complex anime bullshit going on meanwhile Spinner is literally just some guy.

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