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THE SIT-IN

Okay but Vanya's S1 arc is so off-putting from an outsider perspective tho. Like, imagine you're a violinist in her orchestra and the concertmaster just stops showing up. Then that one person nobody knows the name of just...gets good in like a day??? And you just have to accept that she's the new first chair. Then you show up to your concert and she looks like the vampire milf from resident evil and your shitting yourself because there's clearly something wrong with her but you gotta act chill cause it's the big night. Then some fuckers try to tackle her and it turns out she has powers or some shit and she high-key threatens to kills you if you don't finish the concert like???

THIS ENTIRE ASK YEAHH SJFDGDSJFHKASDGAJS

do you think violinists at Icarus just have a reputation for being weird as hell cause all the violinists we’ve met have been weird as hell

Vanya Hargreeves Was Completely Valid In Everything She Did

Ok. So.

Vanya Hargreeves—I’m just gonna say it, is the most relatable character I’ve ever seen. Specifically Ellen Page’s adaptation. Here’s why.

Vanya is what happens when somebody doesn’t respect themself, gives too much, and gets hurt.

In her childhood, Vanya was raised to see herself as nothing. To place everyone above her—her siblings, specifically. She was supposed to be small, of course so that she wouldn’t be dangerous. However, that just made her incredibly depressed.

She didn’t just crave connection and respect though. She wanted to give it to others, because that’s what she was taught—that others deserved it, not her. That’s why she left the lights on for Five. That’s why she reaches out to him again. That’s why she talks to Allison. That’s why she reaches out to Leonard. Why she talks to the first chair violinist in the bathroom. Because she wants to be needed, to be useful, and loved in the only way she knows how. For others.

Which brings me to my second point. Vanya Hargreeves is not a selfish person. A lot of people seem to think that because she is shy and anxious and self defeating that she’s self centered, but that’s not the case. She reaches out multiple times to people, tries to do what they would need, because she cares. She genuinely cares.

So what happens when someone takes advantage of that low self respect, and that need to love and be loved?

Leonard fucking Asshat Jenkins.

Leonard was raised by an abusive father, and boy oh boy did he learn a few tricks from him. He molded himself into everything Vanya could need, and she took the bait, because she was desperate. She’d tried multiple things already—attempting to validate herself and her experiences by writing a book, giving lessons to children, taking medication, reaching out. So why not let this man be a good thing in her life? If he ever treats her wrong, it’s her fault, right?

Then Allison tells her her secret. Vanya didn’t remember being rumored—a very close parallel to how a lot of people deal with trauma. Indeed, being locked in a cage and treated how she was was traumatic. Vanya is angry. She’s been shown that she’s worth something, and now someone who’s repeatedly let her down and only recently been a better sister to her has turned her back on her by telling her this gut wrenching truth from her past. Remembering trauma alone is huge. But hearing it from one of the people who unwittingly hurt you? Can you really blame her for lashing out? Of course, it was an accident how far it went, but her anger, if not right, was still understandable.

And then Leonard. Leonard, the person who she trusted, was just out to hurt her too. Vanya recognizes this—this isn’t the first time she’s been used for her powers. So for the second time, she becomes angry not at herself, as she’d always done in the past, but at someone else. She lashes out. This man who’d filled her with such happiness, happiness that turned to poison. Someone she’d been intimate with. Someone she loved.

Then as a cherry on the fucking cake, her siblings lock her in a cage. Imagine going through an abusive relationship, discovering past trauma, and also discovering you have fucking super powers—then the only people you have left, the people who are supposed to help—lock you up. They’re scared of you. They’re just like everyone else. There’s no hope.

So yeah, Vanya Hargreeves at that point was hurt, confused, lost, and oh, sooo angry. And I think she had some pretty fuckin good reasons. She had no reason to hold back. She’d been holding back all her life.

While trying to kill the world is really shitty, look into Ellen Page’s lifeless glowing eyes and tell me Vanya Hargreeves wasn’t just a puppet being controled by her hurt. Her illnesses. Her trauma, her grief for her past and the loss of trust she’d endured. Tell me she was evil. I’ll tell you she’s me.

i’ve just thought of a concept that is either genius or madness, i haven’t decided yet. but what if vanya and diego swapped their season 2 arcs?

so like, vanya touches down in 1963 and doesn’t forget everything that’s just happened, doesn’t forget that she’s just ended the world, and starts her sixties journey with a well deserved freak out. she ends up sobbing on the street about how she killed everyone, how she destroyed the moon- and promptly finds herself in a psychiatric clinic. which is where she finds lila. lila, who isn’t afraid of her. lila, who doesn’t make her feel like a freak because, lila is weird too. 

and when vanya uses her powers to save them from the swedes, lila still isn’t afraid of her. they run, and it’s wild and crazy in a way that vanya never thought her life would be-

up until lila betrays her.

and it’s even worse, because vanya had trusted her, had told her about how jenkins had used her, and lila’s done it all over again - but she doesn’t look happy, doesn’t look smug or vindicated, and vanya recognises the look on her face, because she knows what it’s like to hurt the people you care about. and if vanya could be forgiven, if she could still be loved, then maybe lila could be too.

meanwhile, diego drops down in the sixties, immediately runs out into the street without thinking, and gets acquainted with the bumper of sissy’s car. and the guy looks dangerous, with all his scars and knives, but sissy just hit him with her car. so she takes him home - and of course she can’t tell her husband, so she sets him up in the barn, thinking once he wakes up he’ll be on his way

except, diego wakes up without his memories beyond his name. and he doesn’t seem dangerous, not really, so she can’t just throw him out, can she? besides, carl is barely home these days, and she could use some help around the farm. she doesn’t really intend to let him around harlan, but it’s a small farm, and it’s not long until she ends up introducing them. diego doesn’t seem to know how to act around kids, because he freezes up, but as soon as it’s clear that harlan is non-verbal, he sort of just- clicks. he doesn’t try to get harlan to speak, not like carl does, just quietly plays with him without any expectations. and when he witnesses one of harlan’s meltdowns, he doesn’t seem alarmed by it. he just… understands. looking at his scars, sissy wonders if he had been prone to them, too.

one day, she sits down with him in the barn, when carl is asleep, and asks him how he’s so good with harlan, when his own father doesn’t want to be around him. diego goes distant, thoughtful. says he thinks he had a speech problem as a kid - a stammer, maybe. sissy goes hopeful, and says, you don’t stammer at all now. you got better. but diego doesn’t smile. he says, no, he doesn’t, but he doesn’t think that happened out of kindness. he might not remember who he was, but he still feels a rush of fear when words stick in his mouth. he tells her that he wishes he’d had someone to accept him as he was, rather than trying to change him. and suddenly it’s not so strange that he’s so good with harlan.

they talk. a lot. diego thinks that it might be unusual, for him, because it’s hard, but he trusts her. almost like a sister, he thinks. and he’s protective like a brother, too. so when sissy finally admits that she wants to be free of carl, free of the way he looks at harlan, free of the way he bullies her, diego is more than happy to have a… conversation, with carl. it turns out, he’s very good with knives.

anyway, not sure where i’m going with this, but it sure was a Thought

Who is this?

Wrong answers only

tua s2 spoilers without context

okay but like… autistic vanya?  god tier.

like, think about it!!

-hates the texture of oatmeal with a fucking passion

-doesn’t like it when people (reginald) yell at her

-auditory processing issues (she doesn’t do what daddy tells her to do because she can’t understand him)

-Strange Child

-hard time connecting with people, even normal people/strangers/people she’s known for a long time

-quiet as fuck

-epic meltdowns because of small/strange stimuli

-special interest in superpowers (reginald did his very best to suppress this) and music (violin specifically)

Vanya’s Room:

Ok so Vanya’s room is actually pretty interesting. Sadly we really don’t see much of her room in the show except for this tiny shot and it’s kinda hard to see anything besides the basics (bed, chair, books, violin, and so forth)

But!

Thanks to bts pics, we actually can get a better look at some of the props inside.

This is pretty much just a clearer/closer shot of the hallway scene, but I can see:

Some wall art

A completely white suitcase in the corner? (Maybe for extra storeage/clutter?)

A teddy bear on top of the suitcase

A clock and a small/book journal on the nightstand

There’s other little stuff on the nightstand and in the cubby below (like a little box?) but I can’t really tell what it is.

There’s a small stack of books on the radiator and some more on the floor next to it. 

I think there’s some stuff under her bed too

Now for the other side of her room that never actually appears in the show.

We have:

A wall mirror

Some hooks for clothes

Sheet music stand

Some books propped up in the corner on the floor?

A dresser behind the door

On the dresser:

A little metal cat statue

A white bowl with some stuff in it?

Some plain white books (I really like how they added in the white details, I think it’s a nice nod to her powers/alter ego)

There’s some other stuff on there, but I can’t really tell what they are besides more books and maybe a little picture?

There’s also a shelf above her dresser, but again, I can’t distinguish much of what’s on it besides:

Even more books

A little red box thing that’s sticking out

And a metronome! We also see a metronome appear on her character poster.

There’s also another very interesting detail about Vanya’s room, it eventually becomes apart of Klaus’s room.

If you watch the flashback scenes vs the 2019 scenes, you’ll notice Klaus’s room (which is right next to Vanya’s) is much bigger in the present than it was when they were kids in the 1x03 flashback.

That’s because at some point Klaus expanded his room and took down the wall (on the right) between his and Vanya’s.

Notice the gray bricks and the black radiator in front of the window.

You can also see the divide where the wall used to be (and that Klaus’s bed is still in the same spot)

I’m not really sure when it happened. One theory I had was that perhaps it happened because Vanya was sent away to school like in the comics?

But on the other hand, it looks like Klaus’s room had already been expanded in the 1x10 flashback where Vanya destroys the house. (And we know Vanya was still living there at least when Ben died at age 16.)

However, that flashback is *technically* a splice between the past and the present (because Vanya is remembering things but she’s also looking at their rooms in the present) so perhaps it doesn’t give us an accurate time frame? I’m not sure. 🤷‍♀️

But either way, I think it’s a very interesting detail. Vanya lost her room at some point and it’s kind of sad because the rest of the siblings still have rooms to come back to and even use them over the course of season 1...but Vanya doesn’t.