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Day 25, I dont think I'm proud of this
I LOVE THEM CHEJSIE HD SKW UNE DJDHSJ
O ZOT I DU ME KREJT SHPIRTIN<3
Do y’all not see how these two look at eachother. GABRIEL’S EYES ARE SO FULL OF LOVE. 😭
Neil I am forever grateful that you made these two canon and also the healthiest ship I’ve ever seen.
AND IT IS SO PAINFULL
This, this is call LOVE.
HOW?????
the demons in hell must be having a riot there's all these rumors about crowley and aziraphale dating and allegedly theres a picture of them together and then 90 years later you hear that a demon and angel ran off to alpha centauri and you're like oh must be crowley and aziraphale they've been a thing for ages but NO its your boss beelzebub (ex boss now, apparently) and heaven's supreme archangel fucking gabriel. like how do you go back to work after hearing this
that's a must, i would have too :D
Mr. Arnold went back to grab the Doctor Who annual 😄
you are a genius, man
Crowley was originally the angel Kokabiel and here's why:
Just looking at this definition of Kokabiel, we know two things: 1.) that they were the angel in charge of the stars, and 2.) the ended up falling. This screams Crowley, as in the first episode of season two we are shown Crowley in his angel form literally creating the stars. He also has a map of the stars in his hand, including all the constellations.
When the galaxy comes alive, Crowley is ecstatic! But when Aziraphale asks if he had done it all himself, he says "Ah, well, I mean, more or less. I wasn't... I wasn't, um... I wasn't the original concept designer, but I worked very closely with the upstairs on it," The "upstairs" in question being God.
Continuing on this theory, Crowley then explains that what he's created is a "star factory" and then launches into teaching Aziraphale about the creation of stars and constellations--much like Kokabeil was known for.
Once Crowley is let on that the "upstairs" is going to shut everything down in about 6,000 years, Crowley is mostly upset that his stars would die. He doesn't know earth by it's name, as he would most likely never have concerned himself with anything other than stars, and when he's told that his stars are only there for humans to just look at, he gets upset and ultimately starts questioning God--a slippery slope after all, because how much trouble can you get in for asking a few questions?
Well, a lot, apparently. Crowley becomes a fallen angel, like Kokabiel, and as we see towards the finale, he still has enough power to open up Gabriel's classified documents--something only a very powerful angel could do. This would align with Crowley being Kokabiel, since Kokabiel was the angel behind creating the universe and all it's stary components.
Not to mention that Crowley has dropped hints about his true name throughout the show, constantly bringing up that they could runaway together to somewhere in the universe both heaven and hell can't find them, or to alpha centuari--a star system in the universe. This hints that Crowley knows places in the universe that others do not (since he created it), and his desire to run away into the stars is just setting up reveal it is because they are of his own creation as an angel.
i want this to be true so bad
(we're all so delulu tho but i mean it worked out w ineffable bureaucracy didnt it?💀😭)
Okay, so!!!! This post will have spoilers for the very end of Good Omens season 2, but I have a theory about that ending and I'll explain--
Something was bothering me, so I just went back and watched the ending like actually 30 times and I am fully 99.999999% certain they switched places
As they're pulling away after the kiss, they lock eyes and Aziraphale's expression shifts in the teeniest tiniest way, like a confirmation glance, before they shift back (and Michael Sheen is a master, so no chance it's not on purpose)
(Like really, go back and watch how Aziraphale's expression shifts literally *a second* before "I forgive you" cuz the change is SO minute, but entirely different emotionally.)
Aziraphale's hands -stay by his sides- after that, he doesn't clasp them at all, and it's particularly noticeable while he's walking to the elevator with Metatron.
The Bentley only ever plays other music for Aziraphale, but also Crowley drives away slowly, but ALSO Crowley's collar is fully turned down but you -can- see bits of the red underside in several scenes (particularly before he changes in heaven), but you don't see it -at all- after the kiss
And Aziraphale's face IS weird in the elevator like everyone says, BUT. after going back and watching both, I'm pretty darn sure that's cuz it's Michael Sheen's Crowley, it's the SAME as during Aziraphale's trial in season 1.
This also explains why they're on opposite sides than they're usually shown while the end credits roll.
I honestly think that Aziraphale was wholeheartedly trying to advance his and Crowley's relationship, in his own incredibly adorable and old fashioned way, in Season 2. There are so many instances where Aziraphale is flirting, touching, lovingly gazing, and extending offers he would normally feel to uncomfortable to make. Like, wanting to dance with Crowley. That is a huge step forward for someone that moves as slowly as Aziraphale does. He is an anxious bean. He tries to establish that its their car and bookshop. He's trying to blur the lines in their possessions a little bit there. Aziraphale even reached out for help to Crowley first and wanted them to work together on protecting Gabriel. Of course, poor Crowley doesn't seem to notice it at all, because he's usually the one testing the waters, seeing how far he can tempt Aziraphale. He's been protecting their fragile existence for ages.
Aziraphale is breaking down boundaries very subtly. He was trying to progress the intimacy in their relationship, by being a little more blatant with his flirtations. With how hedonistic Aziraphale is, I wouldn't doubt that he'd want to try a more human way of approaching his and Crowley's relationship. Moving it from a 6,000 year old friendship to a romantic one. He wants his Jane Austen romance. I cannot be told that if that kiss had happened at any other point, Aziraphale would have been over the moon. He even struggles between reciprocating or pushing Crowley away, which he chooses to do neither.
Unfortunately that kiss was ruined, because it was loaded with so much emotional pain and desperation that it essentially acted as a weapon against Aziraphale. Here is what you're leaving behind, here is what we could have had. You were so close to this weren't you?
heavy hangs the head
(guess who watched the whole of season 2 and has been an emotional mess all day… 🙋)
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(shop prints here!)
This scene is so scrumptious, I adore angry/annoyed Aziraphale with all my heart
Aziraphale understands suffering only as an opportunity to show how "good" you are. He doesn't understand the suffering itself because he has not experienced it. Even though he's been on Earth for thousands of years, he has never had the displeasure of actually going through the negatives of the human experience. Angels don't age and die. Angels don't need money or shelter or food. In his mind, the worst things angels face are strongly worded letters. Smacks on the wrist because, of course, their whole being is good, but everyone makes little, harmless mistakes sometimes.
He has spent his time among the humans appreciating the positive aspects of life- the fine food and drink, the art, the creation and beauty and COMFORT. He has witnessed human suffering- but he only absorbs the after effects when they're in line with his beliefs. The coming together, rising above, the triumph! They got through in the end, they proved how GOOD they are! These poverty stricken people, slaves and serfs, can rise above the system and succeed if only they are good enough. I don't think he thinks too deeply on why the people that don't get dealt good cards still have to suffer. It probably never even actually crossed his mind beyond- "Well, that is the Great Plan." And I think to him that means, the good are rewarded and the angels are the goodest of all, so we get to live in Heaven and show the right path to the pitiful humans who have to choose between Good and Evil. Except sometimes he has to face the moral grays that suffering implies, like with Elbeth in the graveyard episode. When her only friend in the whole world dies, I think Aziraphale might've secretly had a moment of
"Ah, well, there is your punishment for doing wrong."
Because he just doesn't get it. He's carrying around enough money to buy a farm. He's not human- he doesn't feel angry emptiness eating away at his guts. Every occupation is just a way of whittling away your time to him. Money is an afterthought. Money is for the idolation of material things that he tries to ignore in himself. "Why don't you start a bookshop? Farm?" He had to think of things other people do for money, and he wasn't thinking of what she'd be able to do. "Sew?"
When Maggie can't pay the rent, of course it's no problem. Why would it be a problem- he likes Maggie, Maggie is good. She loves that shop and she's sharing the music he loves with the world (and him). Benevolent- if a human was doing it. Selfish, really, of an angel. He's had thousands of years to collect money and treasures (that he doesn't even need) to rise in status. But he doesn't see it that way. He gets to live unfretted and collect and cherish for thousands of years because he is fundamentally better than the humans. But he wouldn't say that. Maybe not even think it. He just knows it in the back of his mind without having to put words to the thought. And at the same time, he feels guilty. But not for anything I've mentioned. He knows he is indulgent and in love with all the sinful pleasures of humanity. He knows he's in love with Crowley. But it is only because of the temptation of a demon. It's not his fault. On the other hand, it's not Crowley's fault that it's in his nature to tempt- that he's Evil. That is the extent he understands moral grays. So it's no one's fault, and there's no need to dwell on it. And all of this twisted up nonsense is why Crowley is so good for him. He keeps on trying to show him the other side. First the pleasures, then the pains. Crowley loves humanity too, but he has a better understanding of its depth that came from his questioning nature and his fall. He wants Aziraphale to understand and accept the whole of humanity- the whole of him. Which is what makes their romantic relationship so heartbreaking. Because Aziraphale just doesn't get it.
"No! It wouldn't be funny at all."
I watched a little further and it’s actually “witchfinder colonel Dalrymple” this is so fun
Okay how is nobody talking about the fact that Nina called Maggie “angel” when they were having their little chat with Crowley in the last episode ?????
Also I’m rewatching season 1 and just noticed that sergeant Shadwell mentions Me Dalrymple in ep. 5 after coming back from the bookshop.
He says “nobody’s ever done what I’ve done. Not Hopkins, not Siftings, not Dalrymple.”
Okay how is nobody talking about the fact that Nina called Maggie “angel” when they were having their little chat with Crowley in the last episode ?????
Also I’m rewatching season 1 and just noticed that sergeant Shadwell mentions Me Dalrymple in ep. 5 after coming back from the bookshop.
He says “nobody’s ever done what I’ve done. Not Hopkins, not Siftings, not Dalrymple.”
Just finished Good Omens Season 2
What the fuck was that tv adaptation fan fiction fever dream! I don't know what to think or say! I finished it less than 4 minutes ago and I honestly never post on here but I'm broken now...
AHHHHHHH!!! (for some reason all I could think about was the fact that in the Destiel Scene, we get an "I love you" and no kiss, and with Ineffable Husbands it's a near gut-wrenching half-sided kiss where they both so longingly want to say "I love you", but the idea of confessing it now when Aziraphale's already made a decision and Crowley feels helpless to do anything!)
Good omens season 2 spoilers 
Never has an image that should bring me so much joy bring me so much PAIN *screams with heartbreak,betrayal & sadness with the intensity of a sound that satan himself couldn’t bring out of me*!!!
Yes! I also want to point out that the little trance Gabriel goes into in episode 4 when he's remembering things is paraphrasing the book of Revelation! "The dead will leave their graves and walk the earth once more and there will be great Lamentations." There is a part in the Bible where the sounds of trumpets and instruments and other things mark the second coming of Christ, and the dead rising from their graves is ALSO one of the signs (I can't remember if it's before or after, it's been a WHILE since I've read it). And coupled with the zombie Nazis, the living dead? It was all foreshadowed and I just love that for once all that miserable reading and sermons throughout my childhood and teen years gave me at least some knowledge for this wonderful show specifically. However, the thing that really sticks out to me is the word "lamentations" which gives off a more...dark interpretation. I was under the impression when I first read the book that it was meant to be a happy thing. First the dead would rise to join Jesus, and then the living. So I wonder if Neil's interpretation will be something more out of a horror movie. I can't wait :) Sorry to hijack your post op, I had some thoughts and you sparked them!
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out yet, but in Season 2 episode 3 (aka the grave digging episode) Aziraphale drives their Crowley's car. In the car he's listening to classical music and the piece he gets to play is 'Danse Macabre' by Camille Saint-Saëns. And if you don't know the 'Danse Macacre' it's a classical piece from 1874 and the French title translates to 'dance of death.' The piece itself is in a minor key and has a lot of strings that gives it an almost playful yet dreary tone. It's often interpreted to represent the resurrection of the dead, no matter the walk of life, and then dancing around graves. The overall message is basically that death is inevitable and no one can escape from it, that it doesn't matter who you are, all things come to an end.
So anyways, I recall Neil Gaiman or someone (sorry if it wasn't you Neil, I can't remember if I saw it here on Tumblr or in one of the several Good Omens interviews) that everything that happens in the show is deliberate. We all know it's deliberate that Crowley listens to Queen/the Bentley turns all music into Queen (sorry im not doing this explanation justice) and we also know that Aziraphale seems to like classical music. But I think there's a darker meaning almost to him listening to the 'Danse Macabre' and that maybe there's just subtle hints all through the season that the end is inevitable no matter how desperately this angel and demon try to prevent it. Or maybe it's even that this whole time it was telling us anyways that Aziraphale was bound to become Supreme Archangel. Or maybe it's just because this episode is about grave robbing, digging up the bodies that died and using them for a new purpose (also considering the grave robbing episode takes place in the early 1800s, before this piece was composed but still) and the piece is actually just to set the tone of the episode. Or maybe it's different all together.
Either way, I think it's important to note the piece he's listening to and the story the piece tells and it's relevance to the story as a whole.
someone please listen to naked by james arthur and try and tell me that isnt literally aziraphale and crowley in the s2 finale
coffee theory this coffee theory that what if aziraphale is being manipulated by the metatron because he says that he misjudged his character but the metatron is still acting strange and very suspicious and still kinda arseholely, one thing that he says to aziraphale is that crowley can become an angel again if he wants to, and this is something that aziraphale is so hung up over the ideas of good and evil, more than anything he wants to be good and he wants crowley to be good because he loves him, part of his perception of goodness involves being an angel because for all his existence he has been told to believe that heaven is good and hell is evil the angels are supposed to be good despite the constant evidence that they aren't good (they were okay with killing all the people in the flood, they were okay with destroying all of Job's stuff including his kids!!!!!! and the most troubling is probably being okay with everyone on earth dying) they are not good entities but aziraphale still believes that they are!!!
the metatron manipulates aziraphale's love for crowley and his want for goodness so that he can have someone to be the new archangel to lead the second coming, he is pulling on his strings in order to get what he wants by using crowley as a bait of sorts to trap him into saying yes so he can have a stable person to lead
crowley has broken free of these ideas and accepted the grey area and decided that he doesn't think that heaven or hell are doing something right, they fell because they questioned god and it was easy to see that hell were doing the wrong thing because they very openly said "yes we're the bad guys" and that is easy to recognise, crowley thought that when aziraphale defied heaven and stopped armageddon that he was choosing their own side that they were on the same page, but aziraphale believes in this facade of angelic goodness so he chooses them
all of this time aziraphale hasn't really questioned heaven's morality sure he's questioned his own ideas of good and evil (clearly demonstrated with the whole body snatching shenanigans) aziraphale hasn't questioned if he should be doing what heaven says unlike gabriel, unlike crowley, he is so convinced that they are good his is blinded by he love for heaven that he rejects crowley despite clearly feeling the same way
idk i still think that coffee theory has a strong argument and its totally cool if you agree with it i think that it is a neat idea :)
the first thing my sibling said after we finished watching episode 6 (again) was “fuck you Neil!” in near tears and same…
I think what I love most about Crowley’s character is how poetic and cyclical his story and struggle is.
It starts with him in heaven, an angel with a deep love and reverence for God and her creations, a love that he then pours into his work to bring Her vision of the stars to life. But just as he begun his work, he is given a message from God through Aziraphale that can be effectively summed up to “nothing lasts forever”. The physical manifestations of Crowley’s passion and love will be erased in, what is to an angel, a blink of the eye. For forever God has always been the designer and Crowley, as an angel, has always been there to simply carry out Her plans. But it is here that Crowley begins to question and strain this unspoken relationship, desiring change.
So despite being warned, Crowley dares to test his relationship with God and questions the unspoken, only to be rejected and abandoned by her in the most visceral way imaginable. It was here that Crowley began his fall.
As a demon, Crowley comes to love Aziraphale and, just as he did with God, he expresses this intense love through acts of service. He takes him out to eat, he saves him, he bends at every whim to keep him happy and safe, and yet nothing is ever explicitly said. Instead they dance around each other and communicate in code, and so Crowley is left to assume.
But then just as with God, Crowley pushes his luck and says too much, asks for too much. He questions the comfortable unspoken dance they’ve been doing for centuries and asks for something more. In response, Aziraphale parrots what he had said in the very beginning, except this time it’s his own words: “nothing lasts forever”. Not the stars, not the bookshop, not love.
So despite being warned, Crowley kisses Aziraphale, posing his most desperate question. In return, he is rejected and abandoned by Aziraphale in the most visceral way imaginable.
Aziraphale’s “I forgive you” is a very loaded response, and while it rings as an attempt to call back to his and Crowley’s old unspoken routine, it also reminds me a lot of God. Crowley falls in act of sin, and while God punished Crowley, She also forgives him for being a sinner because God forgives all sin. So Aziraphale forgives Crowley because again he has sinned. Again he has fallen.
At this point we realize Crowley did not just fall, that’s past tense. Rather, Crowley is falling. He continues to love, dares to show it, and thus suffers the consequences.
Ok so many good omens enjoyers have read The Doc making its rounds on here and I want to discuss the supposed hidden significance of the eccles cakes that op mentioned:
In short, I disagree that they meant anything important for season 3 because their symbolism was shown in its entirety through the context of the two scenes they are in.
The first we see of them is in the coffee shop when Aziraphale asks for something that calms people down, then in the next scene the cakes are shown, Crowley is leaving the bookshop in a barely suppressed rage. This leads the camera to focus in on a shot centering the eccles cakes, the established option to “calm down”, and Crowley’s glasses, basically the option to leave the bookshop in anger and go blow up outside.
I really think it’s as simple as that and that their significance is confined to these two scenes. I guess it’s a little peculiar that they vanished afterwards without being eaten, but what reason would Neil have to continue fitting them in without making them seem even more important than they are? Three is a pattern after all.
I think another big thing to consider about the end of ep 6 and Aziraphale’s decision to try and change heaven is what he just saw take place with Gabriel a few minutes beforehand.
His ex-boss Gabriel that, to Aziraphale at least, embodied everything wrong with how heaven thought and operated just had a complete change of heart and rejected heaven. So it’s possible that in Aziraphale’s mind, if one of the highest ranking angels had been able to change and reject the system, then it’s possible for everyone else in heaven to change as well. I think that’s also why he felt Crowley would have such a vital role in that change, because he believes there is so much to love in Crowley and he hoped that he would be able to show that to heaven and make them change too, just like he and Gabriel had changed partly because their love of a demon.
I think the Metatron kind of topped off that hope by making it seem that he was receptive to departing from the status quo as well. He mentioned that he too has tried human food and insists that Aziraphale indulges unlike the other, more uptight angels that belittled him for his interest in human delights. He then waxes off about how Aziraphale would be a great influence on and leader of heaven despite him going against heaven on so many occasions, which Aziraphale might have taken to mean that the Metatron would be receptive to altering the system to be more inline with Aziraphale’s philosophy.
So of course if both the Metatron and Gabriel, the two (or well, formerly in Gabriel case) highest ranking individuals in heaven sans God herself, had been open to change/abandoning the old heaven, then Aziraphale had a solid chance at changing the system to help everyone, especially Crowley and himself.
Just some food for thought
! GO2 Spoilers !
I just realised something about the "I forgive you" from Aziraphale
Crowley said he was a demon and therefore unforgivable,
It's in his nature to not be forgiven
So when Aziraphale says that to him, after their confession no less, Crowley feels as though Aziraphale doesn't accept him for who he is
This show makes me cry days after I finished watching it, I can't
(It’s Not War) Just the End of Love - Manic Street Preachers
YouTube recommended me a music video starring THE Michael Sheen and I just had to redraw it as my otp.
Extra:
Archangel Aziraphale doesn’t like that the thin dark Duke of hell Crowley grew horns.
“Oh angel, nothing lasts forever.”