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I have a theory that the ring battles were staged to get Tsuna and his guardians involved in the mafia - he had no will to fight or join in the mafia until he thought that he had killed Nono.
Same! Something seemed off.
Espacially after knowing about the Trinisette and Checkerface and everthing. It felt like it was all planned out.
This really keeps me thinking 🤔
I have to re-read the manga really carefully. Espacially where the scheme of Checkerface comes into full play.
Also! The mafia seems really involved with the Trinisette 🤔 doesn't it seem strange?
i kinda get what you’re saying about it being bullshit, but that would kinda mean any win of the vongola’s during the ring battle would be bullshit. like all of the varia are trained professionals, and all of the vongola are just dumb kids that barely know how to use their abilities (besides 20yl!lambo who could only be there a certain amount of time and mukuro who has an undetermined amount of time training with illusions). (hope this doesn’t come off as hate just like talking 😅)
Ah don’t worry, I appreciate your thoughts on it!
So yeah, if we go by logic as I mentioned at the end of my previous answer, Varia would have won. But it is anime/manga logic so let’s stretch things a bit.
Let’s take a little look at Ryohei vs. Lussuria.Why I think it’s believable... a big stretch, but still kind of believable (if we wanna go by manga/anime logic for the sake of the plot): Ryohei trained since his early childhood. He’s boxing for several years. And with the training he received from Colonello, I can justify his win.
Lambo vs. Levi Here’s where I think Amano-sensei screwed up a bit. Bcs I think this should be another win vor the kids. But only because of 20yl!Lambo. I know it was a 5 minute time limit, in which I believe some minutes where used up for Teen Lambo... But it could have ended smoothly with 20yl!Lambo giving the finishing blow and then switching back. In that case Varia wouldn’t get the Sky Ring, because Tsuna wouldn’t be required to step in and safe Lambo.Imo it would matter, the Ring conflict would still be going on, since it where only 2 battles so far.
Gokudera vs. BelphegorHonestly? Nothing to complain about. Played out was expected and needed. Bel is a genius, it would be weird if he got defeated. And Gokudera had still much of character develpoment to go and this was his first step. Sacrificing the win (the ring) for his friends and staying alive. Bcs this was also a big point: Staying alive!
Let’s skip the Yamamoto vs. Squalo match bcs I already explained that xD
Mukuro/Chrome vs. MammonOh dear, I am still so indecisive on this match. But I give it a fair go. Yes Mammon is an Arcobaleno, so supposedly one of the strongest hitman on earth (or wahtever still have to wrap my head around the whole Arcobaleno thing again). But we don’t know the full extent of Mukuros powers. So it might be true that he is on par with Mammon.I’ll give this match also a fair go.
Hibari vs. Gola Mosca I actually don’t have anything to complain. First of all: the Mosca is a machine. And second of all: We talk here about Hibari!
Finally Tsuna vs. XanxusI haven’t rewatched it yet. I ended my rewatch yesterday at the Hibari vs. GM fight... So I can’t say anything for sure on this one. But if my memory doesn’t deceive me, I didn’t really have anything to complain about it.
And I feel like I have to repeat myself: This is all my opinion. And like I said we are going by anime/manga logic so some things need to be stretched a bit for plot sake. Main character plot armor xDDear Anon at this point I want to thanky you for your input :D I really enjoy it ♥
why do you think yamamoto’s win is bullshit?
Ok let me explain.
There are two main points why i have a major issue with his win.
1. Yamamoto trained only for a week
Ok i admit i might be off with this one week time frame, but it was a really short time.
Yes it is said that Shigure Souen is invincible and everthing... But again! He only trained it for a really short time. To master a sword I imagine it takes years. And he mastered it in a week and is able to properly use it in a life or death situation?! Oh come on. I know it's manga/anime logic, but still... I just... Ok not gonna rant...
And even if he is a natural born hitman. He van have all the instincts and reflexes, but it still takes training. Only talent doesn't do much, you have to train the skill!
So yeah, i can't believe and justify in my head, how he could win with such a short training period (when he never touched a sword before)...
And then we can smoothly go to the next point.
2. Squalo is a well trained swordsman and assassin
First of all. He is a swordsman! He's the sword emperor for christ sake! He learned different sword styles over the years. Years! Years of dedication.
And he is an assassin. One of the best in the world, Varia quality. (Although I shouldn't bring up Varia quality as Ryohei defeated Lussuria, but that was kind of OK to believe... Since Ryohei trains boxing for years already)
He also knows Shigure Souen... And again: other different styles. He killed the former Varia Boss!
So what I am trying to say: Squalo had the experiene. And got defeated by a middle schooler with practically no experience at all!
That's why I call this fight bullshit! Well at least the outcome.
I don't know if you can understand my way of thinking, but i hope i could at least explain a little bit of it. Sorry if it all seems a little bit messy, but English isn't m first language and I'm a bit tired already.
And to be honest, if we go completely by logic, Varia would have won xD but oh well, the plot has to get going, the main character can't loose.
And believe me I love both characters! Really! But this was just a plot armor thing for me 🙈 which i am mad about.
Rewatching the anime.
Buying the Rebocon DVDs XD
Buying Merch I find here in Japan XD
I am in a deep KHR hole xD
And i just rewatched the ring battles...
It felt like he had to win bcs Varia already had 3 rings... Like what? Bullshit!! The Battles could have been handled different!
I would have probably switched the win with Lambo. Although then Varia wouldn't get the Sky Ring. But i don't even think it is that important to the overall story arc.
So it would be:
Sasagawa win. Lambo win. Gokudera lose. Yamamoto lose. Chrome win. Hibari win.
And i might be controversial here... But i think it doesn't matter that they would have 4 rings. Here me out: i think that way bcs of how the Sky Battle is designed. The rings are theoretically all available again.
The most important was and is in this Arc the Sky Battle.
So now thank you for reading and fight me!
No but for real, i'm open for discussion and opinions. Or just talking about KHR 🧡