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anon just say you don't know how cults work, like it's not that hard to say just say you don't get how they work its quite simple, if you won't shot on any of the other ravens and only Thea than that's very strange going with she's the only canonical black character,
i wanna agree with you on thea and i understand she went through the raven's cult and i recognize that trauma/experience but she considered, Jean —who was underage when it started— being used sexually and I'm even willing to be she knew he didn't ask for it because she's not stupid and has been in the team long enough, "old tricks." to me that's shitty. And her overall attitude is much too dismissive/demanding for someone that didn't involve herself to help and just get answers to understand a situation she didn't even plan to BE involved with.
She's a fine character, well written for the little importance and screentime given, but she's detestable to me and I cannot respect her beyond "I see you're a survivor and a fine player, for that I respect you."
That and their relationship (hers and Kevins) is the most undeveloped/boring of them so I have a natural bias against them as a couple too but that's obvious now
alright people this is the last time we're doing this.
the nest is a cult. thea was in that cult for five years. thea did not get out earlier, like kevin did. thea was subject to brainwashing and abuse. thea was isolated from essentially anybody who wasn't a raven. thea was 18 when she got there. thea would have known nothing but the nest and become desensitized to the abuse that happened there. she would have looked past and ignored what the master told her to ignore because that is how cults work. that is how brainwashing works.
if you think her attitude is "too demanding" when she wants an explanation for kevin ignoring her for almost two years, read the book again. consider why the only canonical black character in it is "detestable" to you.
Kevin and Thea met when they were 14 and 18, respectively. How did a romance spark between them with a four year difference? I mean like... did she not just see some gross spotty kid with delusions of grandeur???
Sudden tag: I respect Thea or why the Kevin/Thea relationship actually works in my opinion.
I know that many people don't like or even hate Thea, but I think Nora was being as fair as possible when she made Kevin's object of attraction an older, "independent", possibly selfish, and not in need of monogamy woman.
Muldani, like most of the characters in the trilogy, has screwed up in many ways, but there is so much negativity about her attitude towards the ongoing violence in the Evermore, although the same Kevin was one of the participants in this nightmare.
Literally each of the ravens is a traumatized person who tried to survive in the conditions available to him. And the conditions there were brutal.
Many can justify the actions of Rico (and I'm not saying this in a negative way, but as one of the main antagonists with his own motive), who was engaged in voyeurism and was the one who encouraged Kevin to sleep with Thea.
At the same time, she received a lot of hatred because of the misunderstood “fourteen” in Nora’s twitter or tumbler answers and her free spirit in relationships (reading carefully, Kevin became interested in her already as a university student).
It's just, you know, it's Kevin? Always under control, forever codependent. And then Thea appears - a strict girl, with a “rough playing style”, which later interests him.
Day certainly needs love and tenderness (and therapy), no less than Thea, but their open relationship, their “innocent little notes”, the thrown words “a little practice will make you better” - this is their way of avoidance, a way of not limiting their feelings to boundaries, in where they spent their childhood and youth.
I do think Thea and Kevin's relationship is sick, but this is the only time I believe it can work.
Two people who have gone through the same traumatic experience are automatically a complex coexistence.
But they know their purpose and realize where they stand in each other’s lives. Yes, there is no verbal concept of “love” between them, which can be observed even in the dialogues between Andrew and Neil. Nevertheless, they simply know each other’s feelings, believe and carefully cherish the moments they are together.