Eurylochus - Blog Posts

Eurylochus they can never make me hate you

Whilst Eurylochus isn't as faultless as my baby Polites, doesn't mean everything was his fault. Did he open the wind bag? Yes, yes, he did. Did that directly lead to poseidon killing of the crew? No, it didn't. Poseidon would have taken revenge on Odysseus and his crew either way, not just because they were pushed further away from Ithaca. As observed in the snippet of 'get in the water', we've seen that poseidon is more than capable of appearing anywhere in the ocean. Ergo, he was going to kill them all anyway, Eurylochus just spiced things up by changing the location they died. Furthermore, he wasn't wrong to mutiny against Odysseus, and realistically, he wasn't the one fully at fault for zeus and 'thunder bringer'. Now, I'm not saying he's faultless because most of the blame definitely falls onto him. What I am saying is that he was tired and hungry, and he'd given up. Think about it, he'd probably not eaten in days if he stopped off at the first island he came across and killed the sun God's cows. He'd just mutinied against his captain, his friend. Suddenly, the lives of all the crew rest souly on his shoulders. And he's just so tired. Tired of Odysseus ignoring his concerns, tired of seeing his friends and comrades die, tired of seeing Odysseus change for the worst and tired of being hungry. He wasn't in the right state of mind, he'd completely given up by the second half of 'mutiny'. During 'thunder bringer' he doesn't sound angry or even very betrayed. He just sounds apathetic, he's entirely given up at this point. He wants it all to end, and I can't say I blame him. What I'm saying is that, in this situation, would anyone have done anything different? With several gods already looming over you, wishing for your destruction, being so tired and so hungry, and having seen so many of your friends die would anyone really have left those cows?

Tldr; Eurylochus isn't entirely at fault, nobody is entirely at fault. All the actions taken are understandable. They are just humans and they make mistakes.

Bout to start writing a time travel fix it fic for epic where some random crew member gets sent back in time after being murked by zeus. His name is Steven-dave and I love him already.

Polites. Polites I fucking love you. I love you, I have always loved you and I will always love you.

If there are one million Polites fans, I am one of them.

If there is one Polites fan, that is me.

If there are no polites fans, the very concept of my existence has been wiped from every universe and timeline.

No one could ever make me hate you polites, you can never do any wrong and you are perfect.

If Polites was alive during 'keep your friends close' then odysseus would have just been napping on polites lap and polites would be glaring at the crew like 'I may greet the world with open arms but I swear to the gods I will greet your face with my tightly closed fist if you try to get this bag open.' He would look at Eurylochus and go 'Try me, I dare you. Try and get this bag open and see how well that goes for you. I swear Eury, do NOT test me.'

Polites > everyone else ever

Currently thinking about how the death of Polites fractured the dynamic of the crew which led to quite literally the rest of the Odyssey in EPIC the musical. The entire crew relied on this man and NO, I am not exaggerating.

Polites served as the temperance of Ody; the diplomatic and optimistic council who was a liaison between the captain and his crew. Why? Well, Polites is never acknowledged to hold any power in the crew (we're talking EPIC canon here) but is clearly respected and valued by the captain. This combination is familiar; the crew is comfortable approaching Polites because he's their equal and Polites is comfortable approaching Odysseus with their problems because they're friends. That is his role.

Now I have my own issues with Eurylochus but I do think he's written well. And I also do not think he is fully in the wrong. HOT TAKE I KNOW, but hear me out: Eury was Ody's right hand. Odysseus is clever but he's also pretty humble (excluding the whole "I am the infamous Odysseus" but Bro had a right to crash out there). Odysseus does not surround himself with "yes-men", he surrounds himself with friends who are willing to challenge him. Case and point; Eurylochus and Polites.

Polites challenges his morals and instincts - Polites is always trying to ensure that Odysseus is doing what is best for himself. "You can relax my friend" is not something you tell your leader to do casually. It's what you tell your friend to do when they're working themselves too damn hard. "Greet the world with open arms" is not what you tell your commanding officer who you're trusting to get you home.

Eurylochus challenges his decisions. Always does, in every scene and NO that is not a flaw. He serves as a point of resistance so that Odysseus is forced to consider every option carefully. He makes sure Ody has considered the worst-case scenario and is fully prepared to back him up when that happens. Bro was ready to burn the Lotus island down if his friends didn't come back. Eury is the guy who's willing to strike first and make the difficult decisions, much like Ody is. He is a good second in command.

The point is: the two filled massively different roles in the crew. Eury is supposed to challenge Odysseus and question his decisions - that is his job; to make sure that his captain is making the best decisions for the crew. Polites is supposed to support Ody; he is a friend, a confident, and a source of trust and camaraderie.

What makes them such a well-oiled machine is that they all have specific roles and they are good at them. Ody makes the plans and decides what battles to fight, Eurylochus takes initiative and counterbalances Polites optimism, Polites offers ethical and moral support while counterbalancing Eury's cynicism. That is why the crew works so well.

Odysseus has someone to rely on and someone to challenge him. The crew has someone to confide in and a second in command to consider their needs. They have a captain who listens to both. Eurylochus and Polites have each other to balance out and a captain who values their opinions.

It works. It's balanced. It's a powerful type of leadership.

Then Polites dies, and so does that balance.

Eurylochus finds himself having to fill two roles. He has to question his captain and calm the crew. He has to place complete trust in Odysseus as Polites did, but he can't. His and Ody's relationship has always been based on challenging one another to ensure that they're considering every angle. He has spent his entire life being critical of Odysseus' plans because he knows that's what he's supposed to do. He doesn't have blind faith, he's a realist - optimism and trust were Polites forte.

Odysseus finds himself without that support and line of connection to Polites. He grows disconnected from the crew because of it and flounders when it comes to dealing with Eurylochus.

This is seen clearly in the song: Luck Runs Out

Eury was not in the wrong for pointing out how fucking crazy it is to casually ask the Wind God for some help. Sure let's go knock on a god's door and ask for loose change; HELLO!? There are so many ways it could've gone wrong and it has always been Eury's job to point such flaws out. It's what he's always done - probably what he's done for Ody throughout the war.

But Odysseus? He just lost his best friend and his mentor. His entire support system is crumbling, so being challenged by the one person who he needs to have his back pushes him into a dangerous space as a leader.

On the one hand, he cannot afford to have Eury question his every move, especially since Polites isn't there to challenge him for Odysseus. Especially now that he doesn't have Polites instilling trust in the crew - he can't afford Eury's challenges to eroding what trust remains in his disheartened crew.

On the other, pushing Eurylochus away and demanding staunch obedience from him is so out of character for their relationship that all trust between Captain and SOC is suddenly up in the air.

That is why Eurylochus opens the windbag. Not because he wanted "treasure", but because the captain who demanded he "be devout" is not the captain he's followed all this time. The captain who sits awake for four days, eyes following every crewmember with a glimmer of distrust is not the Odysseus Eurylochus knows.

Eury knows Odysseus with Polites. If Polites had been alive, he would've been able to quell the crew's distrust because he would have had full trust in their captain. Odysseus would've been able to trust his crew because he could trust Polites. He cannot trust Eurylochus to have that same blind faith, because Eury doesn't have it; and the crew knows it.

Everything's changed since Polites

It's not a throwaway line; it's what the crew whispers to Eurylochus. He's different. He's changed. Odysseus is not the same. Maybe it is treasure. Maybe he's lying to us. How do we know? How do you know?

And Eurylochus doesn't know. He isn't certain. Odysseus is his friend and his captain; that's a difficult power dynamic to balance.

So Eury opens the windbag, because he doesn't trust Odysseus. It's a different sort of mistrust though - not one of constructive criticism from a friend, but earnest dangerous mistrust of your superior.

Eurylochus leads the mutiny, because that was always his role as Ody's right hand; to question and stand against what he felt was wrong. To speak for the crew as another leader.

But Eurylochus never wanted to be captain. He never wanted to betray his friend. He felt he had to - Yes, he was willing to leave crewmates behind in Circe's lair because he has always been willing to make those hard calls.

Odysseus? He so rarely does what Eurylochus wants to do because they are not the same person. Eury doesn't want Ody to be him (Eury has flaws, but ambition is not one of them. He recognizes he isn't a good leader hence he immediately falls back on Ody's judgment after the holy cow bit) - he wants Ody to listen to him and consider his insights. So for Odysseus to sacrifice six of their crewmates without a word to his friend - without consulting anyone - without leaving space for his right-hand man to question him... that is when Eurylochus loses faith in Odysseus. Because that is not his captain. He doesn't know who it is. But his captain would never.

Hypocritical? Yes. But also rather insightful.

And Odysseus? He loses the last pillar of support he has in the crew, not because Eurylochus changes - not even because he changes. He loses it all because it is doomed to fall apart without Polites. It was all doomed to fall apart when they lost their counterbalance.

It is not Ody's mercy or ruthlessness that kills them. It is not Eury's distrust. Both of those existed far before it all went to shit. It was Polites dying. It was the fact that the three of them were so well suited for leadership as long as it was the three of them.

It had to be the three of them.

Now tell me he wouldn't do that

The Whole Album is so good, but I felt that "Would You Fall In Love with Me Again" Took the cake as the song from the Album to get an on Release Artpiece from me

Enjoy this speed paint, and uuuuhhh yeah I think i may do an image for each song from this saga cause i have ideas for ALLLL

Also some close ups

Peep the blood on his hands, mans has done things, but she loves him regardless ;w; Also homie is crying cause he has been waiting for this moment, nah, fighting for this moment for 20 years now Also the Olive Tree in the background uwu

Also i HAD to had Polites, ya already know hehe

HE IS SO HAPPY ODY FINALLY MADE IT HOME SAFELYYYYY

Also sure yeah I included Eurylochus as well uwu (peep the horns made out of lighting, yeah i know what you did Eury ewe, but I include u none the less uwu)

This whole journey has been amazing, it's bittersweet to see EPIC reach its end, but i'm glad it ended so happily (in the song, RIP IRL Ithaca)

Epic ATLA AU remake (this time with Penelope!)

This is also a DTIYS on Instagram, if anyone's interested.

I never knew I needed this in my life, I LOVE IT

Epic x ATLA AU that nobody asked for

I know the politics does not make sense at all, I just wanted to see them as benders

#epicthemusical

I would have been salty too

A Eurylochus pov: playlist

Just a Eurylochus playlist bc I love him

01_ Way Down We Go - Kaleo 02_ Game Of Survival - Ruelle 03_ Glitter & Gold - Barns Courtney 04_ Like a tattoo - Sade 05_ Non-Stop - Hamilton 06_ My Body is a Cage - Arcade Fire 07_ Who are you, really? - Mikky Ekko 08_ Backstabber - Kesha 09_ Blood in the Water - Grandson 10_ Unfair - The Neighborhood 11_ Eventually - Tame Impala 12_ Black Out Days - Phantogram 13_ YKWIM - Yot Club 14_ Fourth of July - Sufjan Stevens 15_ To build a home - The cinematic orchestra 16_ Brother - kodaline 17_ See You Again -Wiz Khalifa ft.Charlie Puth

Something I've been thinking a lot about recently

Would be Eurylochus's line in mutiny, "If you want all the power you must carry all the blame!" Because even though he sings it to Odysseus, it's not about Odysseus at all. That line perfectly encapsulates Eurylochus's own arc, and foreshadows his death.

I'm sure other people have talked about this as well, but I had to comment on it and how clever it is. Because Eurylochus did want all the power. For a while now, I think. That isn't to say he's been power hungry, but throughout the course of the musical he has grown increasingly dissatisfied with Ody's decisions. Especially from Ocean saga onwards, when Polites isn't there to keep the peace, I get the vibe that he feels that if only he was the one in charge, he could get them home. He would never have gotten them into these dangerous situations they find themselves in. It's his coping mechanism - blaming Odysseus helps keep his own guilt about the wind bag at bay. It's probably why he feels he can tell Odysseus about the wind bag, because he feels that it isn't entirely his fault.

Odysseus doesn't agree, of course, and all of this pent up anger and frustration finally comes to a head in Mutiny. Eurylochus yells this line to him, fully believing that Odysseus doesn't deserve to be in charge anymore and he has a point but that's a post for another day. What Eurylochus doesn't realise, though, is that when he takes Odysseus's power from him and becomes the leader, he will be held to the same standard.

So when he chooses to kill those cows, his words become a self fulfilling prophecy. For a moment, he had all the power. He made a choice. And he had to carry all the blame.

The horsemen listening to epic!

NOW, HEAR ME OUT

Luck runs out: Dylan and Danny as Odysseus Eurylochus arguing

Merritt, Lula, Henley, and Jack: in the background doing the macarena

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Dylan and Jack as Odysseus and Telemachus

That's all I got so far add more if you have any ideas about this id love the hear them! 😁

I may or may not have written a fanfic based on my last post, but i have never written before. And it is probably also confusing? 😅 Idk i still wanted to post it bc i am curious to see what others think! Criticism is welcome but please be nice :).

(Also i crossposted this on AO3)

Having a trident pushing you under the water for a while isn’t nice.

What Odysseus didn’t expect though, was to open his eyes to what he assumed was the underworld.

This can’t be. He thought, I’m supposed to return to Penelope and Telemachus!

WAIT!

Is that liquid gold splattering on his hands?

How?

AAAAH

His vision suddenly switched, was that.. Poseidon lying there? And why was he being stabbed by his own trident?

HOW DOES IT FEEL BEING HELPLESS?!

Was that his voice? But it can’t be, he is supposed to be in the underworld. Well he is actually supposed to be home with his son and wife but-

Odysseus? My son?

Mom? Was that his mom? So he is dead… oh gods, what is he going to-

AAAH

Why is there still screaming

Ody?

Eurylo-

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW PAIN?

Why does his reality keep on being flipped

URGHH

I WATCHED ALL MY FRIENDS DIE IN HORROR

Captain?

Polites! He is good with emotions and feelings and stuff, he could he-

CRYING AS THEY WERE ALL SLAIN (UGH)

He can’t see

All he saw was gold

I HEARD THEIR FINAL MOMENTS

CALLING THEIR CAPTAIN IN VAIN

There they are! He could see them. They look worried, i need to-

LOOK WHAT YOU’VE TURNED ME INTO

LOOK WHAT I’VE BECOME

ENOUGH!

He can’t handle this.

Everything keeps on switching.

Is he really dead?

ALL OF THE PAIN I’VE BEEN THROUGH

STOP!

Is he really dead if at the same time he is causing this god so much agony?

HAVEN’T I SUFFERED ENOUGH?!

He has but is the person who is saying this him?

Who is this?

STOP!!

But he didn’t stop when i BEGGED YOU

TOLD ME TO CLOSE MY HEART

Odysseus?

Captain?

Son?

YOU…

Answer please!

ODY!

YOU SAID THE WORLD WAS DARK

MONSTER!

That’s what he was wasn’t he? It’s what he called himself. Even a god thought he was a monster now.

But didn’t he say that ruthLESSNESS IS MERCY UPON OUR-

ALRIGHT! PLEASE

After everything you’ve done, how will you sleep at night?

Can he sleep when he’s dead? He did a lot of things, but he didn’t do this? Will he still be able to do sleep if he could? Did he really do this? He didn’t. No he didn’t. But who did? Is there anyo-

Next to my wife

But i’ll never see my wife. I’m dead.

Then who will sleep next to my wife?

Eurylochus perhaps?

the aphmau brainrot has simmered and now i’m solely focused on EPIC & the iliad/odyssey (THERES A DIFFERENCE!!!!) so have some sketches i’ve done for fun <3

Luck Runs Out is so funny to me because it's just like

Eurylochus: IDK, Captain, I just feel like a lot of risks are being taken and I'm worried about our safety.

Odysseus: I totally hear you. Why don't we step over here and talk about it?

Odysseus: Listen here you little bitch-

Check this quiz out y'all. It's really good

Hi everyone, I made a personality test with all 40 EPIC songs!

Which song from EPIC: The Musical are you?

Reblogs and shares are appreciated! ^^ <3

Eury: ... O gods...

Ody: phew, that was close.

Eury: O. My. God.

Ody: ???

Eury: Captain, we hurt literally a GOD!

Ody: It'll be fine, I'm sure.

no words can explain how much I love this. Also, no I don’t think opening the briefcase would be a smart idea…

EPIC but minivan

Help.

I'm trapped on a road trip w/ a bunch of people from college. We're in a minivan, which is as nice as it sounds (I have no leg room and it smells like ass). It's been rough, we were all starving so we stopped at a gas station - I just wanted a fucking granola bar - but then one of our friends straight up got snatched and now everyone's just sitting awkwardly because we definitely left someone behind at the gas station but no one knows what TF to do. Bro and we barely got any food -

We've been trapped in stop and go traffic for the last three hours. THREE HOURS. We've nearly died so many times.

But okay, this is where it gets weird because the driver takes a random exit and we end up in this rich ass neighborhood. I know this guy, he's my buddy, he's usually a good driver and like pretty responsible. But he straight up parked the car, told us all to stay out, and walked into this fancy house???? Then bro came back, handed me a black briefcase and said: "Do not open it. It's the only we we're gonna get home".

And the he spent the next NINE HOURS checking on me in the rearview mirror to make sure I haven't fucked with his briefcase... like HELLO? Wtf did he just hand me!?

So now we're like 10 minutes from home, the roads are clear, and I stg I think I'm holding a briefcase full of cash. I low key feel like this is drug money. I don't know what's going on anymore. Send help: do I open the briefcase?

I hate too much when people it's like "nooo but Eurylochus wanted to left all the crew on Circe's, he's too selfish and hypocrite when he got mad at Ody sacrificing only 6 men" PARDON ME? Look, get in his shoes just a moment.

You're a man who finally finally got out of war after 10 years, because your king promised to protect a marriage which wasn't even his, you faced a literal Cyclop who KILLED some of your friends, your king decided to say ALL HIS LIFE INFORMATION which okay, you can left that pass because noone of you thought it could do some damage which it did, but eh.

Next, your king, dear friend of yours and your goddamn brother in law, decided to go piss some god in their domain, but hey, Aeolus help him, so, okay?? But he came back with a bag, which was kinda sus, and he told y'all not to touch it, which was even more sus. So, okay, you opened it, because, c'mon, he's done some stuff, like almost killing a friend and tell all of them he did it because a spell everybody knew he lied, just because he wanted the social status stealing something without help would gave him. HOWEVER it was not treasure but wind. So, ups, you fucked up the things a bit.

AND THEN, MAN, by the gods something happend. Literally, a God happend. PO-SEI-DON HIMSELF APPEARED, and he did it because of your king. And okay, yeah, when you opened the bag you ended on the island he was. But let's be real, he's the fucking god of the ocean, wherever you where, he will find you, it is HIS DOMAIN. So, apparently, your king hurt his son, who was the Cyclop, and in the moment he said his name and all, he doomed y'all.

So Poseidon killed most of your crew and friends. But you could escape, ending on an island, and you were about to tell your captain, your king and friend, that you opened the bag, because you felt guilty. But nono, he told you to talk to him later and search something. You went with some crew, just a few of them, and found a palace, inside there was a woman, who invited y'all. You decided not to go, but your men were hungry and stupid and entered. She was a witch. She turned them into pigs.

WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO?? She's super powerful, the last time you faced someone super powerful, your crew reduced, from 12 ships to 1. As the second in command, basically the captain when the captain is off and now he's off, you're the lider right now and here, so no, you are not willing to lose more men, let's ran away, there's nothing you, a simple mortal, can do.

Okay, so, I was (hello! Nice to meet y'all people from Tumblr) drawing Eurylochus after my math test today and he had this baby face and I was like, c'mon man, seriously? And then I said, young Eury. BUT a song popped into my mind (it was If I Were A Man) and I thought, Man you remember how Eury was the only one who didn't came inside Circe's palace? What if if this is because Eury is a trans man? (Yeah, I know, maybe not much sense by now, I just... Felt it) Like, Circe's spell was doing something with the testosterone of the men, and Eury is not on T (many years on the sea and almost dying, plus ancient greek medicine, may do that to you), so the spell didn't work on him.

That's it, that's the post, thanks for your attention.

that was epic

Eurylochus and Siren! Odysseus Is my favorite concept

O captain my captain, how much longer 'til your luck runs out?

Hot take, but personally, Odysseus has 100 problems and Eurylochus has caused at least 90% of them.